Lending money to sibling

Hi all,

My sibling and I have a good relationship and although we don’t get to see each other as often as we’d like (we live at opposite ends of the country) we speak regularly and are on good terms. Several years ago our mother died unexpectedly - to cut a long story short we had to sell her house to pay off the debts she left and we split the remaining money equally between us.

Some relevant backstory:

I’ve since stuck my share of the money in various savings/bonds accounts and I’m now going to use the majority of it to purchase my first home with my partner, with some left over as savings for retirement and a safety net. It’s been a tough year for my partner and I : COVID essentially meant I was redundant in 2020 as I’m self employed and work in the events industry which all but collapsed last year. Work is slowly crawling back now but is very uncertain, to the point where I’m applying for salaried jobs in other sectors in order to ensure some security for us. Additionally my partner had a health crisis before Christmas last year and had life-changing emergency surgery. They’ve been on long term sick ever since and are only just returning to work now, plus they’ll need another major operation in the future which will require further time off and we won’t know when this will be. We’ve been living with my partners family for the past few years while we prepare for buying our house and we live pretty frugally.

My sibling is married with a young child. Both they and their spouse have good stable jobs and are comfortable as far as I know. They own their home, have 2 cars which they change up fairly regularly, are always getting work done to the house, they can afford decent food from places like Waitrose and are often buying their child expensive toys and games. No criticism from me here; they’re entitled to live they way they like and I’m happy for them. My sibling called me recently to say that they’re fighting daily with their spouse and fear they’re on the brink of separating, that their child is present during arguments and is crying and getting distressed and that they have no support from friends or family nearby.

The dilemma:

They’ve now asked to borrow a significant amount of money from me to pay for some essential works on the house - apparently they miscalculated how much money they had in their savings account to pay for the work and don’t want to tell their spouse as they fear that will end the relationship for good. I obviously don’t want this to happen but it’s not small change they’re asking for - it would have an impact on my safety net and savings for the future especially if they didn’t pay me back. I discussed the situation with my dad who suggested we split the amount between us, with my sibling prioritising paying me back and my dad treating his as a gift. This would be more comfortable and I don’t need that amount of money immediately so I was ok with doing this, however on reflection I’m a little worried as I recall my sibling borrowed money from my mum on several occasions in the past and I don’t think they always paid her back. She actually spent way beyond her means on my siblings wedding and racked up a pretty big debt which we only uncovered after her death. They didn’t make her do this, but I think the expectation to contribute was always there.

I want to help them and I’d like to think they would help me out if I was ever in a difficult situation, but I can’t help feeling uneasy at lending such a large sum when a) I’m about to make the biggest purchase of my life b) it involves concealing financial matters from the rest of the family (only my dad, my partner and I know) and c) their track record with borrowing isn’t that great. I’m already stressed about mine and my partners future without adding money worries with family into the mix, but I think I’d be even more worried if I didn’t help them out. They’ve told me they can pay me back monthly but if this didn’t happen it’d just make me really sad. I discussed this with my partner who said they’d support my decision but they’re obviously concerned it might affect the relationship and they’re quite rightly wondering where my siblings’ share of the money has gone. 

Any thoughts, experiences, advice? Part of me thinks that if you have the money you should help friends and family out, but common opinion seems to be to only lend money out that you don’t mind not getting back. I could deal with not getting my share back but I couldn’t deal with the mistrust and sadness that came with that especially considering we’ve already suffered such a huge loss in the family. 
«1345

Replies

  • edited 14 June at 5:33PM
    RASRAS Forumite
    29.2K Posts
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited 14 June at 5:33PM
    I'd suggest your sibling goes over to the debtfree forum on MSE and put's up a statement of affairs. Folks there are pretty good at working with posters to identify problems. 

    The stark fact is that if your sibling is going to repay you, then their capacity to spend on the stuff they've been used to buying is going to suffer and will be noticeable to their spouse. So sooner or later questions will be asked.

    Then it will be awfully tempting to pretend everything is OK and stop paying you so they can cover up the cover-up.

    Your sibling needs budgeting advice from folk like the MSE crew and then to 'fess up to their spouse when they've got a solution. Of course the whole relationship could go pear-shaped but it sounds like this couple aren't good about talking money to each other, alongside any other issues.  And they'll only survive long term if they start to communicate better.

    The person who has not made a mistake, has made nothing
  • edited 14 June at 5:43PM
    boldasloveboldaslove Forumite
    295 Posts
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    ✭✭
    edited 14 June at 5:43PM
    elsien said:
    If the relationship with the partner is so rocky, you also need to consider what will happen if they split up and the house has to be sold - that will affect your sister's ability to pay even more.
    And as part of your decision making, I don't think you'd be out of order to ask her where the money she's already had went to. It's one of the risk factors you need to bear in mind.  They would appear to have enough money as a family to make some cuts if they need to - no reason why they shouldn't do that instead of borrowing from you. 

    I think the trouble lies in the fact they apparently can’t talk to their spouse about this, which seems crazy and ill-advised to me. And this is speaking as someone who recently made my own financial whoopsie -thankfully before any money changed hands so no harm done apart from to my pride. I had to own up to my partner, it was an awkward conversation and I was upset about it but we figured it out. I don’t think any good can come of lying about financial matters to your SO. And I’m not exactly on close terms with my in-law but I’d feel pretty weird about concealing this from them and my dads partner who I do see regularly and get on very well with.
  • RASRAS Forumite
    29.2K Posts
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Obviously there's no way to know whether your sibling is profligate, or in a financially abusive relationship or somewhere else altogether; but it doesn't sound like this relationship has long-term legs if they can't be honest with each other.

    Suggest they get relationship counselling urgently and once they can talk more easily to each other, your sibling needs to get the counsellor to help tell their spouse, in a safer environment. It may mean the end of the relationship, or it may make it work.

    If they've had an honest discussion and you've talked to your in-law, then you and your dad can re-appraise the situation with your sibling and their spouse. Any repayment is more likely to stick if they are both on board.
    The person who has not made a mistake, has made nothing
  • k12479k12479 Forumite
    577 Posts
    Ninth Anniversary 500 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    ✭✭
    They’ve now asked to borrow a significant amount of money from me to pay for some essential works on the house - apparently they miscalculated how much money they had in their savings account to pay for the work and don’t want to tell their spouse as they fear that will end the relationship for good. 
    That sounds like a terrible basis on which to make a loan, without even considering anything else the OP has written. If the work is 'essential' then the couple need to deal with their responsibilities, if they can't then they really don't stand much chance. In fact, I'd liken this more to placing a bet than making a loan in terms of risk and likelihood of repayment.
Sign In or Register to comment.
Latest MSE News and Guides

A guide to council tax bands

Lower your band & save £1,000s

MSE Guides

Cinema MoneySaving tips & tricks

Including year's 2for1 movies for £1

MSE Deals