Cotswold Lakes Trust (Charity) Car Park PPC Minster Baywatch now with LBC from Gladstones

DontWorryBeHappy27

I understand that Private Parking Companies read these forums so I am hesitant to write too many details at present about the precise dates and time  as my appeal has already gone through the POPLA process without a successful outcome if that is the right phrase.

I'm hesitant to write too much here about the details of what happened when two cars of which I am the registered keeper of both entered  a car park owned by a Charity in the countryside and operated by a Private Parking Company park who are members of  the BPA and who use the POPLA appeals process. 

ANPR evidence that they presented was that a car of which I am registered keeper remained in the car park for a period that  exceeded the grace period, they never stated what the grace period was nor was it on the signage, but that BPA latest member code of conduct in operation from 2020 says they must use a minimum period of 10 minutes. The car  remained in the car park for less than 15 minutes. I was advised by the company of the precise time.

I made a cash payment to park  the other car sufficient for  us to complete a linear walk  and pick up the paid for parked car. The walk did not exceed the time I paid for, but the time it took to unsuccessfully use the app to pay and then search for cash in the car resulted in the other car receiving the invoice as it had remained in the car park during this time. 

There was  an appended note to the machine that said to use a cashless app in preference to cash, there was no ability to pay with a debit card on site. All this was in the period of coronavirus restrictions hence the request to use the app where possible. I have a picture of the notice.

I've been through both the company's appeals process and the POPLA process and been turned down for both of course.

 So now they want me to pay the sum of £100.

As I see it I have three choices from here 

 1 I can pay £100 And put this down to experience. 

2 I can do nothing and see how much the charges that they add mount up and see if they then take me to court to recover their debt that they see believe I have incurred and fight it in the small claims court.

3 I can pay the £100 and then take them to  the government small claims court service to recover the £100. 

4 I can write to to the Charity that I assume permit the company to operate the Car Park on its behalf to see if they will intervene.

Any advice or comments would be greatly appreciated.

Redx

2) the notional add-ons are irrelevant , if it goes to court it's the £100 plus up to £100 in court and legal fees , making it around £200 if you lost in Court within the 6 year statute under the Limitations Act 1980 , paying in full within one month of the loss in court

3) I doubt that this will work , cost you court fees and unlikely to win , 2) is better

4) should have been done anyway , right from day one , but still worth doing asap , it's plan A in the newbies FAQ sticky thread near the top of the forum , whereas you tried plans B & C instead. Plan A is ALWAYS the best option , regardless

Additional plan 5) you can argue your case in court , within 6 years , as I said earlier

1) is your choice , not ours , to make

DontWorryBeHappy27

Thank you RedX.  I have just prepared an email to send to the Charity. 

DontWorryBeHappy27

I have emailed the  Charity they have explained who owns the land and who leases it. Essentially they appear to be the closely related organisations to the Charity. The Charity confirm they do not intervene in the process of enforcement of parking charge notices in any way  which is interesting as they also provide free parking to members of the charity if a car is registered to park with the member.
They also confirmed that they are not prepared to provide any details of the contract to me of the Private Car Parking Company. 

Coupon-mad

Sit tight and defend any claim.  Next time don't take two cars into a private car park.  Unload from outside, or pay for both. 

Private car parks with parking firms in them are simply not safe places to drive in, until such time are the Government properly curbs the worst rogue practices.

DontWorryBeHappy27

I certainlCoupon-mad said:

Sit tight and defend any claim.  Next time don't take two cars into a private car park.  Unload from outside, or pay for both. 

Private car parks with parking firms in them are simply not safe places to drive in, until such time are the Government properly curbs the worst rogue practices.

I will be defending any claim by the PPC and not paying their invoice. I certainly won't be advising any drivers to take  2 cars into a Private Car Park in the future to unload passengers into the other car. Very dangerous in the Private Parking Company World!
I will be sending a Subject Access request to the Parking Operator soon. Nearly 4 years ago they invoiced me for underpayment for parking a vehicle (elsewhere in the UK ), of which I am the registered keeper. 

Umkomaas

Which parking operator is it please?  We can then give you some intel on their likelihood of issuing court proceedings. 

DontWorryBeHappy27

Minster Baywatch Lakeside Car Park near South Cerney land owned/ leased by them. Umkomaas ,you will know better than me of course their likelihood of proceeding but it looks like they are proceeding to court with one from probably the same small car park on another thread as far as I can work out.

Fruitcake

No, we don't know the likelihood of proceeding because we don't know who it is.

It will help us if you tell us the name of the PPC and the location of the car park.

Yes, parking scammers read this forum, but there is specific information that can help us to help you. Without it we are flying blind.

DontWorryBeHappy27

Minster Baywatch Redacted Car Park in view of LBC. Sorry MB was an abbreviation for Minster Baywatch in my last post. The other place where in 2017 I received a PCN that they stopped writing letters for me also was Minster Baywatch at removed as Letter Before Claim has arrived. Of course they may now choose to combine the two.

Coupon-mad

As long as they weren't writing to an old address re the 2017 one.  The danger there would be you could miss a court claim and get a CCJ.  Hopefully they were never using an old address for that one.