I made big mistake buying my house

Getting_greyer

Greymug said:

Getting_greyer said:

Slinky said:

MIN2_2 said:

What would happen in those countries? Have not been to either for years, and didn`t do anything particularly anti-social while there.

The Germans have excellent regulations against antisocial noise from neighbours - most of the regional governments have laws for Ruhezeit (quiet time), usually on Sundays and after 10pm. Forget thumping amplified bass noise - restrictions includes noisy garden equipment or DIY at antisocial hours. Unlike here, the police properly enforce the rules and social norms are such that it is totally unacceptable for most people to be inconsiderate or disrespectful to those living around you. As a tenant, breaking these laws will often get you evicted. I remember a group of very noisy Roma neighbours who moved here from Germany and were amazed at how many people in England will tolerate almost any disturbance.

Many of the cantons in Switzerland have even more strict bylaws, and the municipal police forces are usually good at enforcing these. Ultimately, it is all about respecting other people and being considerate of other people living around you.

This reminds me of when my Dad was doing some work at a factory in Holland in the 1980s where one of the people he was working with wanted to get away early as he had to get home to Germany to cut the grass as it would be frowned on if he did it the following day, Good Friday.

When I was posted to Germany, I'm pretty sure the families weren't allowed to wash their car or put there washing on the line on a Sunday so yeah I can absolutely see this.

Seriously?

Ah, and I thought nazi germany had ended in 1945

I may be getting mixed up with car washing in certain water table areas I dunno.  Was still a great place to live for a bit.

Slips36

MIN2_2 said:

On the plus side the noisy neighbours have been remarkably quiet last few weeks. Hmm I wonder how long it will last?

OP - I'm puzzled why you now tell us that your neighbours have been remarkably quiet over the 'last few weeks' when in your opening post on this thread on the 3rd May you said:

Last Saturday they again had loud music and another lady confronted them and bottle was thrown in her direction and police were called and statement were taken but no action.

One of these statements cannot be correct. I know how awful anti-social behaviour can be but hope you've not been misleading us.

Sorry I may have my dates mixed up, the lady who confronted them was on Saturday 24th April. 
Why would I waste my time misleading you guys?
I have never had to complain about anti social behaviour until I moved here. I have lived in Battersea for several years, East London many years but I have never experienced these levels of noise.

Sunsaru

Slips36 said:

MIN2_2 said:

On the plus side the noisy neighbours have been remarkably quiet last few weeks. Hmm I wonder how long it will last?

OP - I'm puzzled why you now tell us that your neighbours have been remarkably quiet over the 'last few weeks' when in your opening post on this thread on the 3rd May you said:

Last Saturday they again had loud music and another lady confronted them and bottle was thrown in her direction and police were called and statement were taken but no action.

One of these statements cannot be correct. I know how awful anti-social behaviour can be but hope you've not been misleading us.

Sorry I may have my dates mixed up, the lady who confronted them was on Saturday 24th April. 
Why would I waste my time misleading you guys?
I have never had to complain about anti social behaviour until I moved here. I have lived in Battersea for several years, East London many years but I have never experienced these levels of noise.

Raa, if you've lived around them ends then your noise tolerance baseline is already higher than most! 

Slips36

Sunsaru said:

Slips36 said:

MIN2_2 said:

On the plus side the noisy neighbours have been remarkably quiet last few weeks. Hmm I wonder how long it will last?

OP - I'm puzzled why you now tell us that your neighbours have been remarkably quiet over the 'last few weeks' when in your opening post on this thread on the 3rd May you said:

Last Saturday they again had loud music and another lady confronted them and bottle was thrown in her direction and police were called and statement were taken but no action.

One of these statements cannot be correct. I know how awful anti-social behaviour can be but hope you've not been misleading us.

Sorry I may have my dates mixed up, the lady who confronted them was on Saturday 24th April. 
Why would I waste my time misleading you guys?
I have never had to complain about anti social behaviour until I moved here. I have lived in Battersea for several years, East London many years but I have never experienced these levels of noise.

Raa, if you've lived around them ends then your noise tolerance baseline is already higher than most! 

Maybe the houses were better quality. I’m fairly tolerant man but that bass noise is way too much, the lady who complained lives about 50-80 yards away. 

mimi1234

Maisy is a beauty of a cat.  I'm sorry she became poorly and had to be put down.  Bless her soul.

I completely get the issues you have with inconsiderate neighbours.  We have some really nasty ones.  The noise takes over your life.  Fills me with dread even before I get out of bed in the morning!

As others have said, concentrate on planning a move and getting away as soon as you can.  I would run from this house in a heartbeat and never look back but it's Mum's - she won't move and I am her unpaid carer.  I still dream about my exit from this house and that's the only thing that seems to be keeping me going.

Good luck and I hope things work out for you.

BikingBud

Getting_greyer said:

Greymug said:

Getting_greyer said:

Slinky said:

MIN2_2 said:

What would happen in those countries? Have not been to either for years, and didn`t do anything particularly anti-social while there.

The Germans have excellent regulations against antisocial noise from neighbours - most of the regional governments have laws for Ruhezeit (quiet time), usually on Sundays and after 10pm. Forget thumping amplified bass noise - restrictions includes noisy garden equipment or DIY at antisocial hours. Unlike here, the police properly enforce the rules and social norms are such that it is totally unacceptable for most people to be inconsiderate or disrespectful to those living around you. As a tenant, breaking these laws will often get you evicted. I remember a group of very noisy Roma neighbours who moved here from Germany and were amazed at how many people in England will tolerate almost any disturbance.

Many of the cantons in Switzerland have even more strict bylaws, and the municipal police forces are usually good at enforcing these. Ultimately, it is all about respecting other people and being considerate of other people living around you.

This reminds me of when my Dad was doing some work at a factory in Holland in the 1980s where one of the people he was working with wanted to get away early as he had to get home to Germany to cut the grass as it would be frowned on if he did it the following day, Good Friday.

When I was posted to Germany, I'm pretty sure the families weren't allowed to wash their car or put there washing on the line on a Sunday so yeah I can absolutely see this.

Seriously?

Ah, and I thought nazi germany had ended in 1945

I may be getting mixed up with car washing in certain water table areas I dunno.  Was still a great place to live for a bit.

There are many laws in Germany that provide for a better community, car washing on the road, hanging washing out, anti-social behaviour, respect for bank holidays all leading to a much greater respect for others.  

You will also find that as there is a liability for intentional and accidental damage that most people will have personal liability insurance- "Personal liability insurance covers you in cases of accidental damage to a third party or their property. In Germany, you are legally responsible for any damages caused to others by your person. It is important to note that this is restricted not only to damages one has personally caused but also holds for damages caused by one’s children, by one’s pets and so on. You are liable for all your estate. Income and liability claims will not be waived unless the damages in question have been completely paid. Consequently, personal liability insurance is one of the most important insurances one should hold when living in or travelling to Germany."

If only!

Sunsaru

BikingBud said:

Getting_greyer said:

Greymug said:

Getting_greyer said:

Slinky said:

MIN2_2 said:

What would happen in those countries? Have not been to either for years, and didn`t do anything particularly anti-social while there.

The Germans have excellent regulations against antisocial noise from neighbours - most of the regional governments have laws for Ruhezeit (quiet time), usually on Sundays and after 10pm. Forget thumping amplified bass noise - restrictions includes noisy garden equipment or DIY at antisocial hours. Unlike here, the police properly enforce the rules and social norms are such that it is totally unacceptable for most people to be inconsiderate or disrespectful to those living around you. As a tenant, breaking these laws will often get you evicted. I remember a group of very noisy Roma neighbours who moved here from Germany and were amazed at how many people in England will tolerate almost any disturbance.

Many of the cantons in Switzerland have even more strict bylaws, and the municipal police forces are usually good at enforcing these. Ultimately, it is all about respecting other people and being considerate of other people living around you.

This reminds me of when my Dad was doing some work at a factory in Holland in the 1980s where one of the people he was working with wanted to get away early as he had to get home to Germany to cut the grass as it would be frowned on if he did it the following day, Good Friday.

When I was posted to Germany, I'm pretty sure the families weren't allowed to wash their car or put there washing on the line on a Sunday so yeah I can absolutely see this.

Seriously?

Ah, and I thought nazi germany had ended in 1945

I may be getting mixed up with car washing in certain water table areas I dunno.  Was still a great place to live for a bit.

There are many laws in Germany that provide for a better community, car washing on the road, hanging washing out, anti-social behaviour, respect for bank holidays all leading to a much greater respect for others.  

You will also find that as there is a liability for intentional and accidental damage that most people will have personal liability insurance- "Personal liability insurance covers you in cases of accidental damage to a third party or their property. In Germany, you are legally responsible for any damages caused to others by your person. It is important to note that this is restricted not only to damages one has personally caused but also holds for damages caused by one’s children, by one’s pets and so on. You are liable for all your estate. Income and liability claims will not be waived unless the damages in question have been completely paid. Consequently, personal liability insurance is one of the most important insurances one should hold when living in or travelling to Germany."

If only!

Can you imagine....???

RelievedSheff

BikingBud said:

Getting_greyer said:

Greymug said:

Getting_greyer said:

Slinky said:

MIN2_2 said:

What would happen in those countries? Have not been to either for years, and didn`t do anything particularly anti-social while there.

The Germans have excellent regulations against antisocial noise from neighbours - most of the regional governments have laws for Ruhezeit (quiet time), usually on Sundays and after 10pm. Forget thumping amplified bass noise - restrictions includes noisy garden equipment or DIY at antisocial hours. Unlike here, the police properly enforce the rules and social norms are such that it is totally unacceptable for most people to be inconsiderate or disrespectful to those living around you. As a tenant, breaking these laws will often get you evicted. I remember a group of very noisy Roma neighbours who moved here from Germany and were amazed at how many people in England will tolerate almost any disturbance.

Many of the cantons in Switzerland have even more strict bylaws, and the municipal police forces are usually good at enforcing these. Ultimately, it is all about respecting other people and being considerate of other people living around you.

This reminds me of when my Dad was doing some work at a factory in Holland in the 1980s where one of the people he was working with wanted to get away early as he had to get home to Germany to cut the grass as it would be frowned on if he did it the following day, Good Friday.

When I was posted to Germany, I'm pretty sure the families weren't allowed to wash their car or put there washing on the line on a Sunday so yeah I can absolutely see this.

Seriously?

Ah, and I thought nazi germany had ended in 1945

I may be getting mixed up with car washing in certain water table areas I dunno.  Was still a great place to live for a bit.

There are many laws in Germany that provide for a better community, car washing on the road, hanging washing out, anti-social behaviour, respect for bank holidays all leading to a much greater respect for others.  

You will also find that as there is a liability for intentional and accidental damage that most people will have personal liability insurance- "Personal liability insurance covers you in cases of accidental damage to a third party or their property. In Germany, you are legally responsible for any damages caused to others by your person. It is important to note that this is restricted not only to damages one has personally caused but also holds for damages caused by one’s children, by one’s pets and so on. You are liable for all your estate. Income and liability claims will not be waived unless the damages in question have been completely paid. Consequently, personal liability insurance is one of the most important insurances one should hold when living in or travelling to Germany."

If only!

I actually think that is a good idea. If we had something similar here then it might make people consider their actions before taking them.

Sunsaru

RelievedSheff said:

BikingBud said:

Getting_greyer said:

Greymug said:

Getting_greyer said:

Slinky said:

MIN2_2 said:

What would happen in those countries? Have not been to either for years, and didn`t do anything particularly anti-social while there.

The Germans have excellent regulations against antisocial noise from neighbours - most of the regional governments have laws for Ruhezeit (quiet time), usually on Sundays and after 10pm. Forget thumping amplified bass noise - restrictions includes noisy garden equipment or DIY at antisocial hours. Unlike here, the police properly enforce the rules and social norms are such that it is totally unacceptable for most people to be inconsiderate or disrespectful to those living around you. As a tenant, breaking these laws will often get you evicted. I remember a group of very noisy Roma neighbours who moved here from Germany and were amazed at how many people in England will tolerate almost any disturbance.

Many of the cantons in Switzerland have even more strict bylaws, and the municipal police forces are usually good at enforcing these. Ultimately, it is all about respecting other people and being considerate of other people living around you.

This reminds me of when my Dad was doing some work at a factory in Holland in the 1980s where one of the people he was working with wanted to get away early as he had to get home to Germany to cut the grass as it would be frowned on if he did it the following day, Good Friday.

When I was posted to Germany, I'm pretty sure the families weren't allowed to wash their car or put there washing on the line on a Sunday so yeah I can absolutely see this.

Seriously?

Ah, and I thought nazi germany had ended in 1945

I may be getting mixed up with car washing in certain water table areas I dunno.  Was still a great place to live for a bit.

There are many laws in Germany that provide for a better community, car washing on the road, hanging washing out, anti-social behaviour, respect for bank holidays all leading to a much greater respect for others.  

You will also find that as there is a liability for intentional and accidental damage that most people will have personal liability insurance- "Personal liability insurance covers you in cases of accidental damage to a third party or their property. In Germany, you are legally responsible for any damages caused to others by your person. It is important to note that this is restricted not only to damages one has personally caused but also holds for damages caused by one’s children, by one’s pets and so on. You are liable for all your estate. Income and liability claims will not be waived unless the damages in question have been completely paid. Consequently, personal liability insurance is one of the most important insurances one should hold when living in or travelling to Germany."

If only!

I actually think that is a good idea. If we had something similar here then it might make people consider their actions before taking them.

What??? You want people to be responsible for their own actions?? Are you mad???

RelievedSheff

Sunsaru said:

RelievedSheff said:

BikingBud said:

Getting_greyer said:

Greymug said:

Getting_greyer said:

Slinky said:

MIN2_2 said:

What would happen in those countries? Have not been to either for years, and didn`t do anything particularly anti-social while there.

The Germans have excellent regulations against antisocial noise from neighbours - most of the regional governments have laws for Ruhezeit (quiet time), usually on Sundays and after 10pm. Forget thumping amplified bass noise - restrictions includes noisy garden equipment or DIY at antisocial hours. Unlike here, the police properly enforce the rules and social norms are such that it is totally unacceptable for most people to be inconsiderate or disrespectful to those living around you. As a tenant, breaking these laws will often get you evicted. I remember a group of very noisy Roma neighbours who moved here from Germany and were amazed at how many people in England will tolerate almost any disturbance.

Many of the cantons in Switzerland have even more strict bylaws, and the municipal police forces are usually good at enforcing these. Ultimately, it is all about respecting other people and being considerate of other people living around you.

This reminds me of when my Dad was doing some work at a factory in Holland in the 1980s where one of the people he was working with wanted to get away early as he had to get home to Germany to cut the grass as it would be frowned on if he did it the following day, Good Friday.

When I was posted to Germany, I'm pretty sure the families weren't allowed to wash their car or put there washing on the line on a Sunday so yeah I can absolutely see this.

Seriously?

Ah, and I thought nazi germany had ended in 1945

I may be getting mixed up with car washing in certain water table areas I dunno.  Was still a great place to live for a bit.

There are many laws in Germany that provide for a better community, car washing on the road, hanging washing out, anti-social behaviour, respect for bank holidays all leading to a much greater respect for others.  

You will also find that as there is a liability for intentional and accidental damage that most people will have personal liability insurance- "Personal liability insurance covers you in cases of accidental damage to a third party or their property. In Germany, you are legally responsible for any damages caused to others by your person. It is important to note that this is restricted not only to damages one has personally caused but also holds for damages caused by one’s children, by one’s pets and so on. You are liable for all your estate. Income and liability claims will not be waived unless the damages in question have been completely paid. Consequently, personal liability insurance is one of the most important insurances one should hold when living in or travelling to Germany."

If only!

I actually think that is a good idea. If we had something similar here then it might make people consider their actions before taking them.

What??? You want people to be responsible for their own actions?? Are you mad???

Apparently so