I made big mistake buying my house

Slips36

MIN2_2 said:

As others have said really important to take positive steps and don't let the selfish behaviour of antisocial neighbours become all-consuming. First, keep up the pressure on all those causing this problem: the landlord by complaining to the council that he is in breach of his HMO licence, complain to your local councillor if you feel the council aren't doing enough, point out to the Slovak tenants that they if they only have pre-settled status they are liable to deportation if they get a criminal record. In the longer term, take positive action to make your house presentable and begin preparing steps for your next move. That way you'll have something to look forward to.

You are right that law and order is upside down in this country compared to some other countries (this antisocial behaviour would never be tolerated in places like Germany or Switzerland). Sad to see some people on this thread trying to excuse the selfish, thoughtless, and disrespectful behaviour of the tenants - unfortunately, in a high HMO area there are rarely enough owner-occupiers to enforce respectful social norms against behaviour like blaring noise around the neighbourhood at any time of the day or night. There ought to be more pressure on politicians to devise tougher legislation and penalties against anti-social neighbours as such people really make so many people's lives a misery.

Thanks for your kind words, yours is one of the best post on this anti social behaviour. One or two posters here have blamed me for objecting the anti social behaviour of the neighbours. I have reported the noise nuisance to the council through the noise app but council reluctant to act. This country has gone soft on criminals and hard on law abiding people.

Crashy_Time

MIN2_2 said:

What would happen in those countries? Have not been to either for years, and didn`t do anything particularly anti-social while there.

The Germans have excellent regulations against antisocial noise from neighbours - most of the regional governments have laws for Ruhezeit (quiet time), usually on Sundays and after 10pm. Forget thumping amplified bass noise - restrictions includes noisy garden equipment or DIY at antisocial hours. Unlike here, the police properly enforce the rules and social norms are such that it is totally unacceptable for most people to be inconsiderate or disrespectful to those living around you. As a tenant, breaking these laws will often get you evicted. I remember a group of very noisy Roma neighbours who moved here from Germany and were amazed at how many people in England will tolerate almost any disturbance.

Many of the cantons in Switzerland have even more strict bylaws, and the municipal police forces are usually good at enforcing these. Ultimately, it is all about respecting other people and being considerate of other people living around you.

You can go too far though and take all the "vibrancy" out of an area? IMO the councils in Scotland are much more hardcore about shutting down house parties for example than they would have been in the 80`s, 90`s or even early 2000`s, whether this is good or bad depends on if you live right next door or are having the party I suppose...

mrlegend123

Slips36 said:

Hi,

i bought my house 2 months back and I have regretted it since. I bought on 5th March and my cat was traumatised so much we had to put her down on 8th March. On 20th March my next door neighbours who are tenants played very loud bass amplified music till 1:30am, we ignored it hoping it was one off party.
On 26th March more loud music from 11.00 to 12:00 pm. 
On 1st April again loud music from 11.00 to 12:00 pm, then 4 to 6:30 pm my wife told them to keep the volume down. Then 9:00pm to 10:00 pm my wife went told them to keep it down.
Last Saturday they again had loud music and another lady confronted them and bottle was thrown in her direction and police were called and statement were taken but no action.
The landlord has 9 houses and lives in a nice detached house few miles away from here. I haven’t contacted him yet has I doubt he will do anything.
Similar episodes for weeks now, I have informed the environmental dept of Reading council through noise app but not much help.
My wife and daughter are so upset we bought this place. What are our options? 
Any advise grateful accepted.

Oh well move on 

Slinky

MIN2_2 said:

What would happen in those countries? Have not been to either for years, and didn`t do anything particularly anti-social while there.

The Germans have excellent regulations against antisocial noise from neighbours - most of the regional governments have laws for Ruhezeit (quiet time), usually on Sundays and after 10pm. Forget thumping amplified bass noise - restrictions includes noisy garden equipment or DIY at antisocial hours. Unlike here, the police properly enforce the rules and social norms are such that it is totally unacceptable for most people to be inconsiderate or disrespectful to those living around you. As a tenant, breaking these laws will often get you evicted. I remember a group of very noisy Roma neighbours who moved here from Germany and were amazed at how many people in England will tolerate almost any disturbance.

Many of the cantons in Switzerland have even more strict bylaws, and the municipal police forces are usually good at enforcing these. Ultimately, it is all about respecting other people and being considerate of other people living around you.

This reminds me of when my Dad was doing some work at a factory in Holland in the 1980s where one of the people he was working with wanted to get away early as he had to get home to Germany to cut the grass as it would be frowned on if he did it the following day, Good Friday.

Getting_greyer

Slinky said:

MIN2_2 said:

What would happen in those countries? Have not been to either for years, and didn`t do anything particularly anti-social while there.

The Germans have excellent regulations against antisocial noise from neighbours - most of the regional governments have laws for Ruhezeit (quiet time), usually on Sundays and after 10pm. Forget thumping amplified bass noise - restrictions includes noisy garden equipment or DIY at antisocial hours. Unlike here, the police properly enforce the rules and social norms are such that it is totally unacceptable for most people to be inconsiderate or disrespectful to those living around you. As a tenant, breaking these laws will often get you evicted. I remember a group of very noisy Roma neighbours who moved here from Germany and were amazed at how many people in England will tolerate almost any disturbance.

Many of the cantons in Switzerland have even more strict bylaws, and the municipal police forces are usually good at enforcing these. Ultimately, it is all about respecting other people and being considerate of other people living around you.

This reminds me of when my Dad was doing some work at a factory in Holland in the 1980s where one of the people he was working with wanted to get away early as he had to get home to Germany to cut the grass as it would be frowned on if he did it the following day, Good Friday.

When I was posted to Germany, I'm pretty sure the families weren't allowed to wash their car or put there washing on the line on a Sunday so yeah I can absolutely see this.

RelievedSheff

Slips36 said:

MIN2_2 said:

As others have said really important to take positive steps and don't let the selfish behaviour of antisocial neighbours become all-consuming. First, keep up the pressure on all those causing this problem: the landlord by complaining to the council that he is in breach of his HMO licence, complain to your local councillor if you feel the council aren't doing enough, point out to the Slovak tenants that they if they only have pre-settled status they are liable to deportation if they get a criminal record. In the longer term, take positive action to make your house presentable and begin preparing steps for your next move. That way you'll have something to look forward to.

You are right that law and order is upside down in this country compared to some other countries (this antisocial behaviour would never be tolerated in places like Germany or Switzerland). Sad to see some people on this thread trying to excuse the selfish, thoughtless, and disrespectful behaviour of the tenants - unfortunately, in a high HMO area there are rarely enough owner-occupiers to enforce respectful social norms against behaviour like blaring noise around the neighbourhood at any time of the day or night. There ought to be more pressure on politicians to devise tougher legislation and penalties against anti-social neighbours as such people really make so many people's lives a misery.

Thanks for your kind words, yours is one of the best post on this anti social behaviour. One or two posters here have blamed me for objecting the anti social behaviour of the neighbours. I have reported the noise nuisance to the council through the noise app but council reluctant to act. This country has gone soft on criminals and hard on law abiding people.

You do realise that by reporting the noise to the council that you now have to inform any potential purchasers of your property that you have made a formal noise complaint against your neighbours?

So not only will you be up against having moved very quickly after purchasing you will also have a noise complaint to explain away. You could well have made it very difficult to sell your property on if you want to go down that route.

Scotbot

MIN2_2 said:

What would happen in those countries? Have not been to either for years, and didn`t do anything particularly anti-social while there.

Many of the cantons in Switzerland have even more strict bylaws, and the municipal police forces are usually good at enforcing these. Ultimately, it is all about respecting other people and being considerate of other people living around you.

The Swiss bylaws are draconian, you are not allowed to install washing machines in apartments and have to use dedicated laundry facilities.  It used to be on a specific day, people had to arrange their social plans around when they could do their laundry. When questioned the Swiss couldn't see why this was an issue as that was the wife's job. 

Another interesting one was the rule on urinating standing up after certain time at night. Neighbours would report you, the first time you were politely warned, the second time you were fined. The third time you were fined so heavily there wasn't a fourth time.

All tnis was 20 years ago, hopefully they are now more liberal

getmore4less

Slips36 said:

Crashy_Time said:

Slips36 said:

Crashy_Time said:

As mentioned try to sell to a BTL landlord, might require a good price drop to do so though? One benefit of renting is that as soon as the bottles start flying you can pack up and move quite easily.

Yes BTL landlord will probably want 20% off 305k. To make matters worse few weeks back I had rear dormer flat roof renewed for 3k so I’ll need £315k to break even with EA and legal fees.
A recent house was sold subject to contract for £375k. The house was bought by property developer for £265k last year so nice profit for them.

That sort of profit doesn`t really chime with a "bad neighbours" neighbourhood for me, are your neighbours just a one off for the area?

The road is very near to Reading uni also near a nice park. It’s typically a terraced houses road. I thought I got bargain for 3 bed, rear dormer loft, garage behind the garden at £305k. I used to live in a 2 bed terraced and felt bit cramped so wanted bigger space for my family and my cat.

There are always reasons a house is cheap(if £305 was cheap) best to find out why before you buy it.

As for the parties if they have people  round they could have been breaking covid regulations 
you have a week before that options fades away as Boris opens up to groups of 30.

Scotbot

RelievedSheff said:

Slips36 said:

MIN2_2 said:

As others have said really important to take positive steps and don't let the selfish behaviour of antisocial neighbours become all-consuming. First, keep up the pressure on all those causing this problem: the landlord by complaining to the council that he is in breach of his HMO licence, complain to your local councillor if you feel the council aren't doing enough, point out to the Slovak tenants that they if they only have pre-settled status they are liable to deportation if they get a criminal record. In the longer term, take positive action to make your house presentable and begin preparing steps for your next move. That way you'll have something to look forward to.

You are right that law and order is upside down in this country compared to some other countries (this antisocial behaviour would never be tolerated in places like Germany or Switzerland). Sad to see some people on this thread trying to excuse the selfish, thoughtless, and disrespectful behaviour of the tenants - unfortunately, in a high HMO area there are rarely enough owner-occupiers to enforce respectful social norms against behaviour like blaring noise around the neighbourhood at any time of the day or night. There ought to be more pressure on politicians to devise tougher legislation and penalties against anti-social neighbours as such people really make so many people's lives a misery.

Thanks for your kind words, yours is one of the best post on this anti social behaviour. One or two posters here have blamed me for objecting the anti social behaviour of the neighbours. I have reported the noise nuisance to the council through the noise app but council reluctant to act. This country has gone soft on criminals and hard on law abiding people.

You do realise that by reporting the noise to the council that you now have to inform any potential purchasers of your property that you have made a formal noise complaint against your neighbours?

So not only will you be up against having moved very quickly after purchasing you will also have a noise complaint to explain away. You could well have made it very difficult to sell your property on if you want to go down that route.

Normally I would agree with you. In this instance from reading the OPs threads it is clear this house is in a high density area with lots of HMOs and students. I think many buyers would anticipate it being noisy, it doesn't sound like a family friendly area. The OP is best being honest and say that it is a lively area with lots of students and he wants somewhere where quiter. If he sells it will probably be bought by another landlord.

The_Real_Cheddar_Bob

wilfred30 said:

Slips36 said:

Hi,

i bought my house 2 months back and I have regretted it since. I bought on 5th March and my cat was traumatised so much we had to put her down on 8th March. On 20th March my next door neighbours who are tenants played very loud bass amplified music till 1:30am, we ignored it hoping it was one off party.
On 26th March more loud music from 11.00 to 12:00 pm. 
On 1st April again loud music from 11.00 to 12:00 pm, then 4 to 6:30 pm my wife told them to keep the volume down. Then 9:00pm to 10:00 pm my wife went told them to keep it down.
Last Saturday they again had loud music and another lady confronted them and bottle was thrown in her direction and police were called and statement were taken but no action.
The landlord has 9 houses and lives in a nice detached house few miles away from here. I haven’t contacted him yet has I doubt he will do anything.
Similar episodes for weeks now, I have informed the environmental dept of Reading council through noise app but not much help.
My wife and daughter are so upset we bought this place. What are our options? 
Any advise grateful accepted.

You lost any sympathy from me right there 

I've only just started reading this thread, but yes, I'm with you. OP you had your cat put to sleep because of your neighbours? you shouldn't be allowed any animal again. EVER