Notice of Debt Recovery Letter but not driving

Leatham

You may have seen this on one of my other threads, but started a new thread so not to confuse anyone. As some of you know, we have been inundated with these letters, coming out of the woodwork from years back

I have received two Notice of Debt Recovery Letters relating to a PCN for my daughter's car in Nov 2015, when she parked outside her place of work in a retail park.  I was the registered keeper of that vehicle at the time.

They never asked if I was driving it at the time

Taking advice from here, I ignored it. Heard nothing since

Should I also send a SAR to UKPC? or would this serve as an admission I was driving it?

TIA

D_P_Dance

You may have seen this on one of my other threads, but started a new thread so not to confuse

I am confused, why do you need two threads or the same PCN?

Leatham

Different PCN ....had so many letters and PCNs!!

Redx

The advice on here in 2015 was to appeal it , not ignore it !! Been that way since march 2013 , after POFA arrived the previous year

Debt collector letters can be ignored , but if UKPC complied with POFA then you may be liable as keeper

This PCN times out in November of this year , hence the last ditch attempts at payment

Leatham

This relates to Debt Recovery Letter, not a LBC.. not at that stage ....yet

UKPC complied with POFA...how would I know if they complied? Would they have sent something out (they didn't)

D_P_Dance

how would I know if they complied? 

You would read the newbies, and perhaps do some research.  

KeithP

Leatham said:

Should I also send a SAR to UKPC? or would this serve as an admission I was driving it?

How could UKPC possibly jump to that conclusion?

You have been sent a letter because you are the Registered Keeper of the vehicle.
Of course you can send a Subject Access Request to UKPC. Of course that is no where near any sort of admission of who was driving.

Is the vehicle's Registration Document (V5c) correct?
Have you changed address since the alleged parking event?

Leatham

Hi @KeithP

It would have been correct at the time, we no longer have that vehicle
NO, we have not changed address (thankfully!)

Redx

Leatham said:

This relates to Debt Recovery Letter, not a LBC.. not at that stage ....yet

UKPC complied with POFA...how would I know if they complied? Would they have sent something out (they didn't)

UKPC would have posted an NTK PCN to the registered keeper within the first 6 months

You check that NTK PCN against POFA , for compliance or non compliance

The newbies FAQ sticky thread near the top of the forum tells you all about it and has done for 8 years

If you do not have the ntk , the SAR reply will get you a copy

You have absolutely no idea what UKPC have posted or sent out , the SAR will reveal that data

Leatham

@D_P_Dance
This is a minefield for those unskilled and inexperienced in this area. I can read the newbies 100 times and still have questions. I have spent hours on this forum, doing research. If I understood what I was reading, I wouldn't be asking the question. Surely this is the point of being able to ask questions on here?

I was registered keeper so I understand why they wrote to me. But should they have then sent a form to ask if I was driving the vehicle? 

Redx

Leatham said:

@D_P_Dance
This is a minefield for those unskilled and inexperienced in this area. I can read the newbies 100 times and still have questions. I have spent hours on this forum, doing research. If I understood what I was reading, I wouldn't be asking the question. Surely this is the point of being able to ask questions on here?

I was registered keeper so I understand why they wrote to me. But should they have then sent a form to ask if I was driving the vehicle? 

The ntk would have done so with a tear off slip to name the driver , they always do

If you obtain and read the ntk , all will be revealed

Your lack of paperwork is the missing link to enlightenment