Octopus Tracker

BellaBlondykeTheThird

Telegraph_Sam said:

I've noticed that when my invoices don't "add up" it is often the case that differences in the gas conversion factors are to blame. These don't ever seem to figure in the correspondence - presumably because they are an external variable over which no one has any control or influence.

If I am wrong let me know but didn't you say you were running windows 7?

If that is the case then you really need to stop using it does to the vulnerabilities and security flaws.

Telegraph_Sam

You are very correct 

mmmmikey

Telegraph_Sam said:

I concluded that Agile scored over Tracker on average if the consumer was able to load shift during the day / night, AND was prepared to accept greater volatility / risk. And the opposite.That is why I opted for Tracker. I have been looking for something like Octopus Compare that works with Windows. So far without success.

A perfect summary IMHO :-)  

Unfortunately if you're on another tariff, it's very difficult to compare it with what you would be paying if you were on Agile. Because Agile charges different prices at different times of the day, you have to make some assumption about how you would have spread your usage across the day if you were actually on Agile. That's a lot easier said than done.

It's a bit easier to make the comparison the other way. That is if you are already on Agile and want to compare it with a single daily rate tariff like Tracker, SVR, etc. In that case you can take your total Agile usage for the day and multiply it by the daily rate of the other tariff to do the comparison.

Hope this makes sense? I'm saying it because although Compare will give you a good comparison with some tariffs it won't work well if your not on Agile and trying to compare something else with it.

Telegraph_Sam

It does indeed make sense. I assumed that one would have to make some "artificial" individual assumptions in order to get any results, and that these would have to be "interpreted" with caution. Worth a try though.

Tipper

Try https://agile.octopushome.net/compare-your-consumption

SAC2334

Spoonie_Turtle said:

SAC2334 said:

masonic said:

Telegraph_Sam said:

I was trying to work out from the Tracker FAQ's when the new charges come into effect if I am on Nov 22 v1 without an end date. Has this date been publicized?

No, they will reach a decision in January about the timing to move everyone across. It may not be for some time after that, hopefully after winter is behind us! Reasonable notice should help with this.

Seems unfair on those on the Dec 23 new rate that Nov 22 rates are lower and sometimes 12 % lower for electricity  . Has Tracker ever had two tier pricing before ? I have only been on it since early January and would have been a bit narked if others were getting lower rates , and I don t mean regional rates .

There have been different caps with different versions, so for instance summer of 2022 people joining later were paying more than others on the older versions with the lower caps.  There have also been differences in the standing charges, between the earliest original versions.

It might make a bit more sense if you view them as different tariffs, just all of a certain type.  Kind of like how fixes are offered, then closed to new customers.  Obviously not quite the same as that's based on buying set amounts of energy, but it means people are on tariffs with a similar name but different versions and pricing all at the same time, and if you're too late for a cheaper one that's not inherently unfair.  Similarly if you've joined a Tracker tariff too late to benefit from the cheaper, earlier version, that's just the way it is.

Every one now is on exactly the same rate (with usual  regional differences ) as any other version right back to the original V1  .We are all getting the same as Nov 22 v1 except new custs who are on Dec 23..and come the new year we will all  face the rise to Dec 23. That will be 11% electric approx 2.3 p kWh and Gas up 8% 0.38p kWh ..
I doubt that we get more than a couple of weeks notice .it's no big deal to me this small rise.

northernstar007

SAC2334 said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

SAC2334 said:

masonic said:

Telegraph_Sam said:

I was trying to work out from the Tracker FAQ's when the new charges come into effect if I am on Nov 22 v1 without an end date. Has this date been publicized?

No, they will reach a decision in January about the timing to move everyone across. It may not be for some time after that, hopefully after winter is behind us! Reasonable notice should help with this.

Seems unfair on those on the Dec 23 new rate that Nov 22 rates are lower and sometimes 12 % lower for electricity  . Has Tracker ever had two tier pricing before ? I have only been on it since early January and would have been a bit narked if others were getting lower rates , and I don t mean regional rates .

There have been different caps with different versions, so for instance summer of 2022 people joining later were paying more than others on the older versions with the lower caps.  There have also been differences in the standing charges, between the earliest original versions.

It might make a bit more sense if you view them as different tariffs, just all of a certain type.  Kind of like how fixes are offered, then closed to new customers.  Obviously not quite the same as that's based on buying set amounts of energy, but it means people are on tariffs with a similar name but different versions and pricing all at the same time, and if you're too late for a cheaper one that's not inherently unfair.  Similarly if you've joined a Tracker tariff too late to benefit from the cheaper, earlier version, that's just the way it is.

Every one now is on exactly the same rate (with usual  regional differences ) as any other version right back to the original V1  .We are all getting the same as Nov 22 v1 except new custs who are on Dec 23..and come the new year we will all  face the rise to Dec 23. That will be 11% electric approx 2.3 p kWh and Gas up 8% 0.38p kWh ..
I doubt that we get more than a couple of weeks notice .it's no big deal to me this small rise.

even with a end date that could be right upto 11dec24? the end date should at least be honoured

Bendo

The terms make it perfectly clear they can change it as they want regardless of an end date. The only reason it has an end date is to work around the price cap.

Telegraph_Sam

Tipper said:

Try https://agile.octopushome.net/compare-your-consumption

Having armed myself with my API  and account + meter info I am trying to 

"Consumption

Here's how to browse the consumption for your account"

But I can't see how to progress (using the examples stated). Does this only work if I am on Agile?

bristolleedsfan

Bendo said:

. The only reason it has an end date is to work around the price cap.

Agile and Tracker tariffs would not be subject to price cap as a variable tariff with no end date. (I know they say this and that). Agile/Tracker tariffs seemingly qualified for EPG discount for new signups after 1 October 2022 as a variable tariff with no end date not subject to price cap.