Octopus Tracker

Telegraph_Sam

My smart phone is not smart and my tablet is pre-historic. I will campaign for the website to be "retro-updated".

Spoonie_Turtle

The app requires Android 8.  I have no idea what age the oldest devices to have recieved it could be, but if you know what android version your tablet has then at least you'll know either way.

It is annoying the reading history has been removed from the website though, one of the things I really appreciated about Octopus was the website was fully functional and you didn't *have* to have the app.

SAC2334

masonic said:

Robgmun said:

I like how the tracker tariff has become very stable in the last week. I think we're good until the end of the month now at the least

It would be unwise to project the recent stability out into the future. Volatility could return at any time, the tariff is about as predictable as the weather.

Weather has been extremely unstable with nationwide flooding. Prob worst ever Oct rainfall on many parts of East UK  Tracker has been very stable. Tracker is much more predictable..All seems pretty calm to me 

Telegraph_Sam

Spoonie_Turtle said:

The app requires Android 8.  I have no idea what age the oldest devices to have recieved it could be, but if you know what android version your tablet has then at least you'll know either way.

Tablet: Android 4.4.2. "Your system is the latest version".
Mobile: Android 13.  Is the app mobile friendly?

Spoonie_Turtle

Telegraph_Sam said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

The app requires Android 8.  I have no idea what age the oldest devices to have recieved it could be, but if you know what android version your tablet has then at least you'll know either way.

Tablet: Android 4.4.2. "Your system is the latest version".
Mobile: Android 13.  Is the app mobile friendly?

And you said you didn't have a smart phone   yes of course it's mobile-friendly!

Telegraph_Sam

I will withhold judgement until I have tried the app. It cannot claim to be stable.Spreadsheets are a no-no.

masonic

SAC2334 said:

masonic said:

Robgmun said:

I like how the tracker tariff has become very stable in the last week. I think we're good until the end of the month now at the least

It would be unwise to project the recent stability out into the future. Volatility could return at any time, the tariff is about as predictable as the weather.

Weather has been extremely unstable with nationwide flooding. Prob worst ever Oct rainfall on many parts of East UK  Tracker has been very stable. Tracker is much more predictable..All seems pretty calm to me 

Tracker pricing will be inversely proportional to weather stability, and of course geopolitical events also have a significant influence. A prolonged settled (weather) period with low wind will drive up the price as demand for fossil fuels will be high. Rainfall has little effect on price as solar generation dwindles in the winter months, whereas wind tends to reduce prices. As temperatures continue to fall, demand rises and so does the gap between supply and demand, with the masses on SVT competing for wholesale gas. That said, the weather has been fairly typical of the season over much of the UK. Even many of those in the regions affected by the storms didn't personally observe anything out of the ordinary for the time of year. The more extreme effects seemed very localised. Some sub-zero daytime temperatures in combination with no wind are the conditions to watch out for.

I would love to be proven wrong on this and see the unit price stay at or around 20p for the whole of the winter period, but I doubt this will actually happen.

Qyburn

masonic said:

I suspect the website will eventually have this feature restored.

Not convinced. The new Energy Consumption page is less functional than the old (which at least for the moment you can still access). They seem to be stripping back the website and pushing the app.

spot1034

masonic said:

SAC2334 said:

masonic said:

Robgmun said:

I like how the tracker tariff has become very stable in the last week. I think we're good until the end of the month now at the least

It would be unwise to project the recent stability out into the future. Volatility could return at any time, the tariff is about as predictable as the weather.

Weather has been extremely unstable with nationwide flooding. Prob worst ever Oct rainfall on many parts of East UK  Tracker has been very stable. Tracker is much more predictable..All seems pretty calm to me 

Tracker pricing will be inversely proportional to weather stability, and of course geopolitical events also have a significant influence. A prolonged settled (weather) period with low wind will drive up the price as demand for fossil fuels will be high. Rainfall has little effect on price as solar generation dwindles in the winter months, whereas wind tends to reduce prices. As temperatures continue to fall, demand rises and so does the gap between supply and demand, with the masses on SVT competing for wholesale gas. That said, the weather has been fairly typical of the season over much of the UK. Even many of those in the regions affected by the storms didn't personally observe anything out of the ordinary for the time of year. The more extreme effects seemed very localised. Some sub-zero daytime temperatures in combination with no wind are the conditions to watch out for.

I would love to be proven wrong on this and see the unit price stay at or around 20p for the whole of the winter period, but I doubt this will actually happen.

We also rely a lot on imports which could be affected by problems in other countries - e.g. if someone finds a crack in the wall of a French nuclear plant and it has to be shut down - maybe several of a similar type also have to be shut down as a precaution. The shortfall would have to be made up mostly by gas generation not just here but in other countries affected and prices would rise to reflect this.

Imagine this happening when there's a huge area of blocking high pressure sitting over the whole of northern Europe maybe for a couple of weeks - light winds, temperatures below or near freezing, fog just lifting into low cloud during the day if it lifts at all. 

High gas usage this coming winter would also presumably affect prices going into spring as stocks would need to be built up again ready for winter 24/25.

Telegraph_Sam

More cause for concern about gas than electricity as far as Tracker prices are concerned? Is one more volatile than the other?