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Chrysalis

Hmm odds deffo seem higher now on £1, out of last 8 spins 5 wins.

Again all winning spins had £1 before £512 but also before £64, each spin seems to always land on space before £512 or space before £64.

Chrysalis

Dolor said:

I used to be an auditor and auditing is based on assessing risks of errors and designing checks to ensure that any errors in the process would be identified in appropriately sized samples.

I agree with you up to a point. Octopus has the responsibility for its customers’ meters and as far as I am concerned they can do what they want when they want. A data collector (pretending to be the supplier) calling the customer for meter readings is something altogether different. There is no meter check as such  - so no added value. I am happy to access smart meter sub-menus but it isn’t my job to give the supplier readings which it already has on its system. FWiW, my wife wouldn’t have a clue what to do. Meter readings from data collectors are treated for billing purposes as industry-validated. If, for example, I was stupid enough to give them the reading from my IHD, I would end up being billed for 500 units that I have already paid for. I have given Octopus the T01 and T02 readings even though the T02 register is presently not in use. 

If Lowri Beck is being paid to obtain meter readings on behalf of Octopus, then they can send out a meter reader and do the job properly.

As an aside, I am on a three rate single register tariff and index readings play no part in the billing process. I do not even see meter readings on my monthly statement. All billing is done on 30 minute usage. I should that the other part of the bill is for SEG export payments so Octopus knows that I have PV solar.

I had a meter reader showing up earlier in the year, as I now have smart meters alarm bells immediatly sprung, I told him if he wants he can read the gas meter on outside of property, turns out he didnt read them (nothing was submitted) but was very pushy trying to come in.

No one has came since.

Chrysalis

[Deleted User] said:

My point is that suppliers are no longer required to read smart meters or any other meter for matter. Under Licence Conditions suppliers just have to obtain a meter reading once a year. Suppliers are now required to carryout meter safety checks but they are left to decide the frequency of these checks.

 If a supplier is offering tariffs and billing based solely on 30 minute usage (as is the case with Octopus)  then a meter reading provided by a meter reader is of no value whatsoever. The meter reader has no way of extracting 30 minute usage data from the meter that I am aware of. 

A supplier asking its data collector to read meters which then decides to request meter readings from the homeowner by phone demonstrates just how flawed the whole meter audit and checking process has become. A consumer is unlikely to admit over the phone that his/her meter has been bypassed for months.

I do think this is a factor, certain postcodes get much higher frequency of meter reader visits than others.

Spoonie_Turtle

Chrysalis said:

Hmm odds deffo seem higher now on £1, out of last 8 spins 5 wins.

Again all winning spins had £1 before £512 but also before £64, each spin seems to always land on space before £512 or space before £64.

Huh, thanks for the heads-up, I won £1!  On the second spin.  Definitely seemed to be more £1s on the wheel that time than even the first spin.

double_dutchy

Hmm, two years with Octopus, now 4 spins a month - one measly win @ £1

I think I must be going wrong with my clicking technique!!

Although from what you are saying, if I see the wheel with £0 before both £64 and £512 perhaps I should just abort and spin another day?

bristolleedsfan

double_dutchy said:

Although from what you are saying, if I see the wheel with £0 before both £64 and £512 perhaps I should just abort and spin another day?

Outcome is pre-determined.   "We assign the prizes randomly throughout the month, and we show how many prizes have been won so far when you submit a reading. When you spin the wheel, our prize randomiser checks whether your spin wins a prize, and then we show that in the wheel"

https://octopus.energy/blog/wheel-of-fortune/

Chrysalis

double_dutchy said:

Hmm, two years with Octopus, now 4 spins a month - one measly win @ £1

I think I must be going wrong with my clicking technique!!

Although from what you are saying, if I see the wheel with £0 before both £64 and £512 perhaps I should just abort and spin another day?

Sadly no.

After my losing spin, I seen the £0, but the image had changed to £1 by the time the next spin stopped, so I think it updates when you click.  So you only have an idea once you have committed to the spin basically.  Essentially what I posted is an observation, but not of any use if you want to try and game the system

There is also the chance no odds have changed and for 2 months in a row I just got very lucky. 2/4 last month and 3/4 this month.  But before that 0/4 most months.

masonic

double_dutchy said:

Hmm, two years with Octopus, now 4 spins a month - one measly win @ £1

My only ever win (£1) was on April fools day 2021.

bristolleedsfan

masonic said:

double_dutchy said:

Hmm, two years with Octopus, now 4 spins a month - one measly win @ £1

My only ever win (£1) was on April fools day 2021.

I think that was the month everybody won  I won £1 this month which was first win since that occasion.