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masonic

Chrysalis said:

masonic said:

Xbigman said:

masonic said:

Xbigman said:

masonic said:

Is everyone on a smart tariff being told that they need to be on Flexible for a few days before switching to Tracker?

No.

I had my invite 10 minutes ago to switch from Agile straight to electric Tracker (I'm keeping gas on flexible) and it states the same as above, backdated to the 1st. No electric flexible switching requirement mentioned.


Darren

Then it's possible that the email I received was written under the assumption that its recipients are already on Flexible. Or a change to meter profile kicks you off your current tariff, which would be a pain.

Surely that's because you are, or have been on E7 at some point. That's what I call a 2 rate meter.


Darren

I have a smart meter, but the previous meter was E7. I've been on smart tariffs ever since my current meter was installed. That doesn't really explain why it would be necessary to switch from Agile to Flexible before switching to Tracker.

Who told you, that you had to go on flexible first? I was moved straight from agile to tracker.

It's the third paragraph in the email I screenshotted, from Pete @ Octopus.

Xbigman

SJMALBA said:

Xbigman said:

masonic said:

Is everyone on a smart tariff being told that they need to be on Flexible for a few days before switching to Tracker?

No.

I had my invite 10 minutes ago to switch from Agile straight to electric Tracker (I'm keeping gas on flexible) and it states the same as above, backdated to the 1st. No electric flexible switching requirement mentioned.


Darren

Out of curiosity, why gas on Flexible rather than Tracker?

There are risks with the Tracker tariff's where you might be on a high rate for an extended period. Being on both Gas and Electric Trackers increases that risk. Now with electric I can average down in the good months by enough to make it worthwhile even if I have a whole month at 100p a kwh. My gas usage however is only 1 unit a month in the main summer months so I can't average down in the same way. I expect that in a mild winter those on both will get a lower average than myself, whilst in a cold winter I would do better. I believe the phrase is 'hedging my bets'.


Darren

scobie

Xbigman said:

SJMALBA said:

Xbigman said:

masonic said:

Is everyone on a smart tariff being told that they need to be on Flexible for a few days before switching to Tracker?

No.

I had my invite 10 minutes ago to switch from Agile straight to electric Tracker (I'm keeping gas on flexible) and it states the same as above, backdated to the 1st. No electric flexible switching requirement mentioned.


Darren

Out of curiosity, why gas on Flexible rather than Tracker?

There are risks with the Tracker tariff's where you might be on a high rate for an extended period. Being on both Gas and Electric Trackers increases that risk. Now with electric I can average down in the good months by enough to make it worthwhile even if I have a whole month at 100p a kwh. My gas usage however is only 1 unit a month in the main summer months so I can't average down in the same way. I expect that in a mild winter those on both will get a lower average than myself, whilst in a cold winter I would do better. I believe the phrase is 'hedging my bets'.


Darren

Interesting. 

I’m taking a different approach. I’m staying on Agile for electricity and moving to Tracker for gas.  I’ve looked at the gas prices on tracker over the last 8 months and it never got more than today’s lower Flex price, mostly being 20-40 per cent lower.  

Tracker for electricity has frequently spiked although it came down quickly. 

Chrysalis

masonic said:

Chrysalis said:

masonic said:

Xbigman said:

masonic said:

Xbigman said:

masonic said:

Is everyone on a smart tariff being told that they need to be on Flexible for a few days before switching to Tracker?

No.

I had my invite 10 minutes ago to switch from Agile straight to electric Tracker (I'm keeping gas on flexible) and it states the same as above, backdated to the 1st. No electric flexible switching requirement mentioned.


Darren

Then it's possible that the email I received was written under the assumption that its recipients are already on Flexible. Or a change to meter profile kicks you off your current tariff, which would be a pain.

Surely that's because you are, or have been on E7 at some point. That's what I call a 2 rate meter.


Darren

I have a smart meter, but the previous meter was E7. I've been on smart tariffs ever since my current meter was installed. That doesn't really explain why it would be necessary to switch from Agile to Flexible before switching to Tracker.

Who told you, that you had to go on flexible first? I was moved straight from agile to tracker.

It's the third paragraph in the email I screenshotted, from Pete @ Octopus.

Well he did say only a few days so I guess not a huge deal.

masonic

scobie said:

Xbigman said:

SJMALBA said:

Xbigman said:

masonic said:

Is everyone on a smart tariff being told that they need to be on Flexible for a few days before switching to Tracker?

No.

I had my invite 10 minutes ago to switch from Agile straight to electric Tracker (I'm keeping gas on flexible) and it states the same as above, backdated to the 1st. No electric flexible switching requirement mentioned.


Darren

Out of curiosity, why gas on Flexible rather than Tracker?

There are risks with the Tracker tariff's where you might be on a high rate for an extended period. Being on both Gas and Electric Trackers increases that risk. Now with electric I can average down in the good months by enough to make it worthwhile even if I have a whole month at 100p a kwh. My gas usage however is only 1 unit a month in the main summer months so I can't average down in the same way. I expect that in a mild winter those on both will get a lower average than myself, whilst in a cold winter I would do better. I believe the phrase is 'hedging my bets'.


Darren

Interesting. 

I’m taking a different approach. I’m staying on Agile for electricity and moving to Tracker for gas.  I’ve looked at the gas prices on tracker over the last 8 months and it never got more than today’s lower Flex price, mostly being 20-40 per cent lower.  

Tracker for electricity has frequently spiked although it came down quickly.

I'm not sure there's any advantage being on Agile elec vs Tracker, other than being able to get off it quicker

masonic

Chrysalis said:

masonic said:

Chrysalis said:

masonic said:

Xbigman said:

masonic said:

Xbigman said:

masonic said:

Is everyone on a smart tariff being told that they need to be on Flexible for a few days before switching to Tracker?

No.

I had my invite 10 minutes ago to switch from Agile straight to electric Tracker (I'm keeping gas on flexible) and it states the same as above, backdated to the 1st. No electric flexible switching requirement mentioned.


Darren

Then it's possible that the email I received was written under the assumption that its recipients are already on Flexible. Or a change to meter profile kicks you off your current tariff, which would be a pain.

Surely that's because you are, or have been on E7 at some point. That's what I call a 2 rate meter.


Darren

I have a smart meter, but the previous meter was E7. I've been on smart tariffs ever since my current meter was installed. That doesn't really explain why it would be necessary to switch from Agile to Flexible before switching to Tracker.

Who told you, that you had to go on flexible first? I was moved straight from agile to tracker.

It's the third paragraph in the email I screenshotted, from Pete @ Octopus.

Well he did say only a few days so I guess not a huge deal.

It's going to leave me a few quid out of pocket, and it doesn't seem to be necessary. If it is in fact necessary, then so be it, but I'd like to understand when and for how long I'll be billed on Flexible. Also why others can have Tracker billing backdated and I can't.

gt94sss2

Is someone able to compare the Helpful Octopus 24M Fixed November 2021 v1 tariff to see if it's worth to the Tracker please?

This would be for electricity only in the London region..

masonic

gt94sss2 said:

Is someone able to compare the Helpful Octopus 24M Fixed November 2021 v1 tariff to see if it's worth to the Tracker please?

This would be for electricity only in the London region..

It's anyone's guess what average Tracker prices will be between now and November, and without knowing that it's impossible to say if it would be worth it. Personally I'd take a guaranteed 18p/kWh over uncertainty with Tracker.

mmmmikey

masonic said:

scobie said:

Xbigman said:

SJMALBA said:

Xbigman said:

masonic said:

Is everyone on a smart tariff being told that they need to be on Flexible for a few days before switching to Tracker?

No.

I had my invite 10 minutes ago to switch from Agile straight to electric Tracker (I'm keeping gas on flexible) and it states the same as above, backdated to the 1st. No electric flexible switching requirement mentioned.


Darren

Out of curiosity, why gas on Flexible rather than Tracker?

There are risks with the Tracker tariff's where you might be on a high rate for an extended period. Being on both Gas and Electric Trackers increases that risk. Now with electric I can average down in the good months by enough to make it worthwhile even if I have a whole month at 100p a kwh. My gas usage however is only 1 unit a month in the main summer months so I can't average down in the same way. I expect that in a mild winter those on both will get a lower average than myself, whilst in a cold winter I would do better. I believe the phrase is 'hedging my bets'.


Darren

Interesting. 

I’m taking a different approach. I’m staying on Agile for electricity and moving to Tracker for gas.  I’ve looked at the gas prices on tracker over the last 8 months and it never got more than today’s lower Flex price, mostly being 20-40 per cent lower.  

Tracker for electricity has frequently spiked although it came down quickly.

I'm not sure there's any advantage being on Agile elec vs Tracker, other than being able to get off it quicker

Doesn't it depend on the time of day you use electricity? Agile looks to be cheaper than Tracker at certain times if I've understood those charts correctly?

Chrysalis

masonic said: It's going to leave me a few quid out of pocket, and it doesn't seem to be necessary. If it is in fact necessary, then so be it, but I'd like to understand when and for how long I'll be billed on Flexible. Also why others can have Tracker billing backdated and I can't.

No idea, but it seems a lottery in which rep you get, I think its probably not necessary, you might find if you ask again they just move you without flexible.