Received a parking charge because the parking permit slipped and was not fully visible

D_P_Dance

If the head lease and the AST conflict where does one go?   IMO, the landlord is at fault and should be invited to pay the charge.  

Le_Kirk

If the landlord (who is the leaseholder and should abide by the terms of the head lease) has passed on more favourable terms than the head lease allows him to via the AST, then I expect you are right and you'd go after the landlord.  Whether or not he would pay/deal is another matter.

D_P_Dance

I am a landlord and I would take this on,   

ritwolf

As expected, I received the letter with PCM rejecting the appeal. From what I found in one of the websites, I think I will pay it now and then consider taking them to the small claims court. My lease doesn't say anything and I feel they are operating in bad faith. Please let me know your opinions.

ritwolf

(Sorry, in the previous post I meant my AST... not the lease. I'm not the landlord)

Ralph-y

do not do anything just yet ... please stay calm  do not pay before all the options are looked at.

You understand the scammers try so hard to make people feel threatened ... just like you right now.

what other website?    take who to small claims ?

"My lease doesn't say anything and I feel they are operating in bad faith."

MP's feel the same

https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/d5550515-cce9-4185-83ec-754dadb7524a

''Rip-offs from car park Cowboys must stop''; unfair treatment; signage deliberately confusing to ensure a PCN is issued; ''years of abuse by rogue parking companies''; bloodsuckers; ''the current system of regulation is hopeless, like putting Dracula in charge of the blood-bank''; extortionate fines; rogue operators; ''sense of injustice''; unfair charges and notices; wilfully misleading; signage is a deliberate act to deceive or mislead; ''confusing signs are often deliberate, to trap innocent drivers''; unreasonable; a curse; harassing; operating in a disgusting way; appeals service is no guarantee of a fair hearing; loathed; outrageous scam; dodgy practice; outrageous abuse; unscrupulous practices; ''the British Parking Association is as much use as a multi-storey car park in the Gobi desert''; and finally, by way of unanimous conclusion: ''we need to crack down on these rogue companies. They and some quotes from the committe stage

"The other area is hospital parking, and I want to single out one company for some pretty shady practices. That is ParkingEye"     
      " is very clear to me that there is collusion between parking companies and solicitors’ firms—so-called roboclaims companies. "
            "They are often set up adjacently and involve the same directors and personnel. Incidentally, the same personnel get involved in the so-called appeals bodies."  
        "Essentially, it is a money-making enterprise that takes advantage of motorists up and down the country. They operate in a very business-like fashion, which is why I call them roboclaims companies."          
      "The companies are jamming up parts of our legal system."            
    “I now pretty much know exactly how the parking companies and in particular the IPC have been running this scam for the past 5 years. Basically both of the appeals processes are a complete and utter sham, (and part of that sham is Gladstones Solicitors itself)”      
               "The appeals process at Excel/VCS is run by a team of minimum wage office workers with no legal knowledge or experience whatsoever,"       
        " It is claimed by the head of the appeals service (retired Judge Bryn Holloway) that this is a completely independent fair process, it is not”          
  "The letter mentions two individuals—Will Hurley and Bryn Holloway—and concludes   this is a typical example of the clear collusion between the IPC, their members and the IAS"   
                  "what we can do about roboclaims companies and solicitors  firms that profit, often in shady ways"             
       " the very large amounts of money that can be involved in such scams—a company called Smart Parking was involved in one such scam on my patch"         
        "tightening up the rules regarding the unfair use of automatic number plate recognition"                  "BW Legal, regularly issues 10,000 county court judgments a month, and is known to have issued 28,000 in one month"        
          "They are jamming up our court system, and are often totally unjustified."         
 " because the lifeblood of trying to extort money from people is having access to their details."     
are an absolute disgrace to this country. Ordinary motorists and ordinary residents should not have to put up with this''.

Ralph

D_P_Dance

From what I found in one of the websites, I think I will pay it now and then consider taking them to the small claims court

Why would you do that?  Why do you not just take out advice and jump through the hoops?    If you pay and then take them to court a judge might think that you are extracting the urine.  

Fruitcake

If you pay these scammers, you will be marked as a mug and get more and more tickets. How do you know the parking scammers didn't bounce up and down on the car to make the permit slip? How do you know they won't do it again and again?

Coupon-mad

Why would you not simply do an IAS appeal?   You do realise that paying funds the 'outrageous scam' (Hansard - MPs' phrase) operation and you are sponsoring it?

 We've told you that many firms are not contesting them due to COVID, and PCM were already not contesting IAS appeals, preCOVID!

Fruitcake

As already said, if there is nothing in your lease/AST about paying a scammer, why on earth would you even think about it?