dcb legal - CCPC (you know the drill)

LJB179

KeithP said:

Seemslegitium said:

LJB179 said:

KeithP said:

LJB179 said:

Yes, I count 56 days from 11th Dec to 5th Jan - then we should add 2 days on to account for delivery time. Is this written into the rules?

Rules?? It's Statute Law. POFA 2012 Sch4 para 8(4) to (6)...

(4) The notice must be given by—

(a) handing it to the keeper, or leaving it at a current address for service for the keeper, within the relevant period; or

(b) sending it by post to a current address for service for the keeper so that it is delivered to that address within the relevant period.

(5) The relevant period for the purposes of sub-paragraph (4) is the period of 28 days following the period of 28 days beginning with the day after that on which the notice to driver was given.

(6) A notice sent by post is to be presumed, unless the contrary is proved, to have been delivered (and so “given” for the purposes of sub-paragraph (4)) on the second working day after the day on which it is posted; and for this purpose “working day” means any day other than a Saturday, Sunday or a public holiday in England and Wales.

Fantastic, thank you. This doesn't change anything with regards to the pursuit of the driver, based on what was said above, so they will still go after me if they think I was the driver at the time?

...I believe PoFA also covers the deadlines for NtD (Notice to Driver).

It does. A NtD must be served on the driver at the time of the parking event.

Is this the notice to driver? They sent me nothing from the SAR other than the docs I've shared.

KeithP

LJB179 said:

KeithP said:

Seemslegitium said:

LJB179 said:

KeithP said:

LJB179 said:

Yes, I count 56 days from 11th Dec to 5th Jan - then we should add 2 days on to account for delivery time. Is this written into the rules?

Rules?? It's Statute Law. POFA 2012 Sch4 para 8(4) to (6)...

(4) The notice must be given by—

(a) handing it to the keeper, or leaving it at a current address for service for the keeper, within the relevant period; or

(b) sending it by post to a current address for service for the keeper so that it is delivered to that address within the relevant period.

(5) The relevant period for the purposes of sub-paragraph (4) is the period of 28 days following the period of 28 days beginning with the day after that on which the notice to driver was given.

(6) A notice sent by post is to be presumed, unless the contrary is proved, to have been delivered (and so “given” for the purposes of sub-paragraph (4)) on the second working day after the day on which it is posted; and for this purpose “working day” means any day other than a Saturday, Sunday or a public holiday in England and Wales.

Fantastic, thank you. This doesn't change anything with regards to the pursuit of the driver, based on what was said above, so they will still go after me if they think I was the driver at the time?

...I believe PoFA also covers the deadlines for NtD (Notice to Driver).

It does. A NtD must be served on the driver at the time of the parking event.

Is this the notice to driver? 

Possibly. Is the Issue Date / Time the date and time of the alleged parking event?

blackdog2220

LJB179 said:

So, as we have discussed numerous times, and I thank you very much for your patience, my next step is to email dcbl to have it put on hold for 30 days, stating that I have the SAR and am taking debt advice, whilst denying the debt (as per newbies thread 2).

I thought the idea was to accept there offer of arbitration , you seem to have had a SAR , admittedly woth a lot of stuff missing , and in this case its no where near timing out , so why ask for 30 day extension , what do you need it for , legal help , not realy I suspect dcbl will have read this post , and terry towel will have been tipped off by the BPA , so why ask for 30 day extension 

look on this forum or ask at legal beagles or pepipoo the correct wording and the cprrect info (id) you need to contact the DVLA and ask them between XX and XX who and when accessed your data and the reason for this , this is a free service , NOT filling in v88and paying , email and reply will come back in post 
hopefully this will show all incidents where they have paid the dvla for your data , "they" is important as there compay name and ICO number will be revieled 

DO IT , contact the DVLA ASAP  , forget the 30 day extension , ask DCBL to start the adjudication procedure and suggest POPLa  

Coupon-mad

Flipping heck what a long thread! 

There's nothing wrong with the suggested reply that pepipoo gave you, so crack on with that and stop going round in circles.

Very interesting to see the clean up by the BPA in trying to make it look like CCPC Ltd were BPA members and were the same as the AOS member in 2010 that was not a Ltd company.  But DVLA data can't be assigned from one entity to another.

blackdog2220

having seen a printout pf the dvla request (on another thread) the DVLA have been conned and handed info to a non company , a entity that is not recognised by the BPA asnd using a ico number or a individual 
at no point on the dvla request does it state Terry towel T/A capitol carpark control , as required under uk law 

LJB179

blackdog2220 said:

LJB179 said:

So, as we have discussed numerous times, and I thank you very much for your patience, my next step is to email dcbl to have it put on hold for 30 days, stating that I have the SAR and am taking debt advice, whilst denying the debt (as per newbies thread 2).

I thought the idea was to accept there offer of arbitration , you seem to have had a SAR , admittedly woth a lot of stuff missing , and in this case its no where near timing out , so why ask for 30 day extension , what do you need it for , legal help , not realy I suspect dcbl will have read this post , and terry towel will have been tipped off by the BPA , so why ask for 30 day extension 

look on this forum or ask at legal beagles or pepipoo the correct wording and the cprrect info (id) you need to contact the DVLA and ask them between XX and XX who and when accessed your data and the reason for this , this is a free service , NOT filling in v88and paying , email and reply will come back in post 
hopefully this will show all incidents where they have paid the dvla for your data , "they" is important as there compay name and ICO number will be revieled 

DO IT , contact the DVLA ASAP  , forget the 30 day extension , ask DCBL to start the adjudication procedure and suggest POPLa  

I was under the understanding that when I reach out to dcbl I include all of the above, inclusive of the 30 day hold request - http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=137974&st=20&start=20

Following that post.

LJB179

Coupon-mad said:

Flipping heck what a long thread! 

There's nothing wrong with the suggested reply that pepipoo gave you, so crack on with that and stop going round in circles.

Very interesting to see the clean up by the BPA in trying to make it look like CCPC Ltd were BPA members and were the same as the AOS member in 2010 that was not a Ltd company.  But DVLA data can't be assigned from one entity to another.

I'm learning lots I have my plan of action now, I think and the main concerns around their actions etc. I have learnt a lot about my rights from you guys, so thank you for that.

I am not super concerned - £200 is £200 at the end of the day, but I do want to win, so that I can do my small part of fighting against these horrible people.

LJB179

KeithP said:

LJB179 said:

KeithP said:

Seemslegitium said:

LJB179 said:

KeithP said:

LJB179 said:

Yes, I count 56 days from 11th Dec to 5th Jan - then we should add 2 days on to account for delivery time. Is this written into the rules?

Rules?? It's Statute Law. POFA 2012 Sch4 para 8(4) to (6)...

(4) The notice must be given by—

(a) handing it to the keeper, or leaving it at a current address for service for the keeper, within the relevant period; or

(b) sending it by post to a current address for service for the keeper so that it is delivered to that address within the relevant period.

(5) The relevant period for the purposes of sub-paragraph (4) is the period of 28 days following the period of 28 days beginning with the day after that on which the notice to driver was given.

(6) A notice sent by post is to be presumed, unless the contrary is proved, to have been delivered (and so “given” for the purposes of sub-paragraph (4)) on the second working day after the day on which it is posted; and for this purpose “working day” means any day other than a Saturday, Sunday or a public holiday in England and Wales.

Fantastic, thank you. This doesn't change anything with regards to the pursuit of the driver, based on what was said above, so they will still go after me if they think I was the driver at the time?

...I believe PoFA also covers the deadlines for NtD (Notice to Driver).

It does. A NtD must be served on the driver at the time of the parking event.

Is this the notice to driver? 

Possibly. Is the Issue Date / Time the date and time of the alleged parking event?

It is Keith, yes - it shows the time and date of the event and the time period between which they began monitoring and then ticketed the car (12 mins).

blackdog2220

LJB179 said:

blackdog2220 said:

LJB179 said:

So, as we have discussed numerous times, and I thank you very much for your patience, my next step is to email dcbl to have it put on hold for 30 days, stating that I have the SAR and am taking debt advice, whilst denying the debt (as per newbies thread 2).

I thought the idea was to accept there offer of arbitration , you seem to have had a SAR , admittedly woth a lot of stuff missing , and in this case its no where near timing out , so why ask for 30 day extension , what do you need it for , legal help , not realy I suspect dcbl will have read this post , and terry towel will have been tipped off by the BPA , so why ask for 30 day extension 

look on this forum or ask at legal beagles or pepipoo the correct wording and the cprrect info (id) you need to contact the DVLA and ask them between XX and XX who and when accessed your data and the reason for this , this is a free service , NOT filling in v88and paying , email and reply will come back in post 
hopefully this will show all incidents where they have paid the dvla for your data , "they" is important as there compay name and ICO number will be revieled 

DO IT , contact the DVLA ASAP  , forget the 30 day extension , ask DCBL to start the adjudication procedure and suggest POPLa  

I was under the understanding that when I reach out to dcbl I include all of the above, inclusive of the 30 day hold request - hxxp://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=137974&st=20&start=20

Following that post.

"reach out" reach out to dcbl ?
am i missing something , they are not there to help you , they are bloodsucking leaches working at the very extreme edges of UK law 

those cases from terry towel are all flawed , all have mistakes all have not complied with POPLa or the BPA , DCBL are a BPA member , they know the rules , they are not adhering to them 

just take them up on there WRITTEN OFFER of indipendent arbitration and suggest thst POPLa was the method used at the time of the incident , DCBL are BPA members , Mr terry towel is or is not a member , however a company he is a director of is , also as a EX member , the BPA will allow him to use POPLa 

let popla decide , so many flaws they are going to laugh him out

as per £200 300 , you do realise that if every claimant accepts POPLa , terry towel will need to get an overdraft 

LJB179

blackdog2220 said:

LJB179 said:

blackdog2220 said:

LJB179 said:

So, as we have discussed numerous times, and I thank you very much for your patience, my next step is to email dcbl to have it put on hold for 30 days, stating that I have the SAR and am taking debt advice, whilst denying the debt (as per newbies thread 2).

I thought the idea was to accept there offer of arbitration , you seem to have had a SAR , admittedly woth a lot of stuff missing , and in this case its no where near timing out , so why ask for 30 day extension , what do you need it for , legal help , not realy I suspect dcbl will have read this post , and terry towel will have been tipped off by the BPA , so why ask for 30 day extension 

look on this forum or ask at legal beagles or pepipoo the correct wording and the cprrect info (id) you need to contact the DVLA and ask them between XX and XX who and when accessed your data and the reason for this , this is a free service , NOT filling in v88and paying , email and reply will come back in post 
hopefully this will show all incidents where they have paid the dvla for your data , "they" is important as there compay name and ICO number will be revieled 

DO IT , contact the DVLA ASAP  , forget the 30 day extension , ask DCBL to start the adjudication procedure and suggest POPLa  

I was under the understanding that when I reach out to dcbl I include all of the above, inclusive of the 30 day hold request - hxxp://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=137974&st=20&start=20

Following that post.

"reach out" reach out to dcbl ?
am i missing something , they are not there to help you , they are bloodsucking leaches working at the very extreme edges of UK law 

those cases from terry towel are all flawed , all have mistakes all have not complied with POPLa or the BPA , DCBL are a BPA member , they know the rules , they are not adhering to them 

just take them up on there WRITTEN OFFER of indipendent arbitration and suggest thst POPLa was the method used at the time of the incident , DCBL are BPA members , Mr terry towel is or is not a member , however a company he is a director of is , also as a EX member , the BPA will allow him to use POPLa 

let popla decide , so many flaws they are going to laugh him out

as per £200 300 , you do realise that if every claimant accepts POPLa , terry towel will need to get an overdraft 

Just a term I used. I shall be contacting them, probably tomorrow or on Monday with this information. I'm still in corporate emailing mode from a long working week.