dcb legal - CCPC (you know the drill)

LJB179

Hi Team,

Just opening a new thread as instructed.

Same as everyone else, received a letter yesterday from dcb legal. I was made aware of this by dcbl last year, when they started sending letter. The actual 'offence' was committed back in 2016 and was for parking outside of my own front door (a sign was put up all of a sudden, stuck onto the actual wall of our flat - I have all of the photos via a SAR that I sent, after taking the advice of coupon-mad. I can attach them also, but wasn't sure if this would take the anonymity away, although I have already blocked out the reg, time, date etc.). Anyway, I have already sent SARs to the relevant parties, so I have all of the information and I am just looking for some advice/guidance as to where to go from here. Coupon-mad said that if I went to court and lost the maximum fines would be c£200, so it's nothing to really worry about. I also see that Terry Szmitd has now setup his own ltd company, so the claimant on the form is no longer correct and a sole trader cannot pass debt onto another company? However, I did look this up online and there is nothing, apparently, to stop someone from being a sole trader at the same time as owning a ltd company, so does this argument stand? Thanks, appreciate all of the help. You guys do a great job.

NB. I was wondering whether to write to my MP to explain that this is dodgy, to dcbl etc. however, to my knowledge, apart from the space between 'car park' sometimes being there and sometimes not, I cannot now see anything relating to 'ltd' in my paperwork from dcbl/CCPC, email signatures or the website, so should we just assume that the old entity is still pursuing it? I also have more photos of the evidence and the SAR, showing that the data was retrieved from DVLA, however, again, CCPC ltd is never mentioned, so I do not know if this holds relevance. a

Cheers.

LJB179

Just wanted to bump this. I was reading the below from the Newbies page, and wanted to know whether I should now email dcb legal to outline the below, as well as bring to light the issues with regards to CCPC? I plan to email my MP, as this couldn't hurt, I don't think? Unless, if she emails them straight away again (like she did last time), they may know that I plan to bring this up in court as defence, if it gets there.

As well as the SAR to the parking firm's DPO, also write another email, if they are using Gladstones, DCLegal, BW Legal or other solicitor.
Your email tells the solicitor:
(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.
(b) I have sent your client a SAR
(c) also confirm your correct 'address for service' if you've moved and the PPC has two addresses.

KeithP

Yes, do that.

beamerguy

NB. I was wondering whether to write to my MP to explain

As I have said in the DCBL GROUP THREAD
DCBL letters ... forum group thread
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6237177/dcbl-letters-forum-group-thread#latest

"Such intimidating letters must be forwarded to your MP with a request to pass this on to the FCA AND Robert Buckland MP, who is Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice.
Your MP should worry about how many of these letters are being received in his/her constituency asking for inflated amounts on an unproven debt"

DO IT PLEASE .... DCBL are on a time limited fools errand, they don't know it yet

LJB179

Thank you both, I shall get on and send both across tonight. One more thing, should I delay the one to dcb legal a week or so to give me more time (as I assume they will hold it for 30 days from when you ask)?

beamerguy

LJB179 said:

Thank you both, I shall get on and send both across tonight. One more thing, should I delay the one to dcb legal a week or so to give me more time (as I assume they will hold it for 30 days from when you ask)?

You tell them you are seeking debt advice and to place on hold for 30 days

LJB179

beamerguy said:

LJB179 said:

Thank you both, I shall get on and send both across tonight. One more thing, should I delay the one to dcb legal a week or so to give me more time (as I assume they will hold it for 30 days from when you ask)?

You tell them you are seeking debt advice and to place on hold for 30 days

Yes, my question was just that I assume that we can do this anytime before the 30 day deadline that they gave, so if you do it nearing the end of that period, you get more time?

blackdog2220

LJB179 said:

Just wanted to bump this. I was reading the below from the Newbies page, and wanted to know whether I should now email dcb legal to outline the below, as well as bring to light the issues with regards to CCPC? I plan to email my MP, as this couldn't hurt, I don't think? Unless, if she emails them straight away again (like she did last time), they may know that I plan to bring this up in court as defence, if it gets there.

As well as the SAR to the parking firm's DPO, also write another email, if they are using Gladstones, DCLegal, BW Legal or other solicitor.
Your email tells the solicitor:
(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.
(b) I have sent your client a SAR
(c) also confirm your correct 'address for service' if you've moved and the PPC has two addresses.

ensure that you address the SAR to Mr Terry Szmitd T/A capitol car park as he is a sole trader (and ICO reg in his own name) , and not to the DPo shown on the limited s web site 

your SAR should be recieved back within 28/31 days on Terry Szmitd T/A capitol car park headed notepaper , if it is returned on the limited companies notepaper , then the sar has not been sent correctly and a formal complaint can be sent to the ICO , Mr Terry Szmitd has 2 entries with the ICO , one in his own name and one in ltd company name 

you are at no point dealing with capitol car park patrol Ltd 
it seems that Terry Szmitd has got a lot of those case in his own name (as a sole trader ) at some point the tax man will be informed and he , not a company will have to show all the recepts for payment to debt collection companies and be taxed on any claims he has won , as a sole trader 

beamerguy

beamerguy said:

LJB179 said:

Thank you both, I shall get on and send both across tonight. One more thing, should I delay the one to dcb legal a week or so to give me more time (as I assume they will hold it for 30 days from when you ask)?

You tell them you are seeking debt advice and to place on hold for 30 days

From what I see, DCBL are well on course to be spanked in every court in the country.
Scammers don't work in court

LJB179

blackdog2220 said:

LJB179 said:

Just wanted to bump this. I was reading the below from the Newbies page, and wanted to know whether I should now email dcb legal to outline the below, as well as bring to light the issues with regards to CCPC? I plan to email my MP, as this couldn't hurt, I don't think? Unless, if she emails them straight away again (like she did last time), they may know that I plan to bring this up in court as defence, if it gets there.

As well as the SAR to the parking firm's DPO, also write another email, if they are using Gladstones, DCLegal, BW Legal or other solicitor.
Your email tells the solicitor:
(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.
(b) I have sent your client a SAR
(c) also confirm your correct 'address for service' if you've moved and the PPC has two addresses.

ensure that you address the SAR to Mr Terry Szmitd T/A capitol car park as he is a sole trader (and ICO reg in his own name) , and not to the DPo shown on the limited s web site 

your SAR should be recieved back within 28/31 days on Terry Szmitd T/A capitol car park headed notepaper , if it is returned on the limited companies notepaper , then the sar has not been sent correctly and a formal complaint can be sent to the ICO , Mr Terry Szmitd has 2 entries with the ICO , one in his own name and one in ltd company name 

you are at no point dealing with capitol car park patrol Ltd 
it seems that Terry Szmitd has got a lot of those case in his own name (as a sole trader ) at some point the tax man will be informed and he , not a company will have to show all the recepts for payment to debt collection companies and be taxed on any claims he has won , as a sole trader 

Thank you, I have already received the SAR from them actually. I requested it via their GDPR email address, which was given to me by their info@ inbox after I did an ID check (just told them the address in questions). Either way, is the ltd company allowed to have access to my data? The SAR that they sent back was not on headed paper, it just said that the 'enforcer' was Capital Car Park Control.

blackdog2220

LJB179 said:

blackdog2220 said:

LJB179 said:

Just wanted to bump this. I was reading the below from the Newbies page, and wanted to know whether I should now email dcb legal to outline the below, as well as bring to light the issues with regards to CCPC? I plan to email my MP, as this couldn't hurt, I don't think? Unless, if she emails them straight away again (like she did last time), they may know that I plan to bring this up in court as defence, if it gets there.

As well as the SAR to the parking firm's DPO, also write another email, if they are using Gladstones, DCLegal, BW Legal or other solicitor.
Your email tells the solicitor:
(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.
(b) I have sent your client a SAR
(c) also confirm your correct 'address for service' if you've moved and the PPC has two addresses.

ensure that you address the SAR to Mr Terry Szmitd T/A capitol car park as he is a sole trader (and ICO reg in his own name) , and not to the DPo shown on the limited s web site 

your SAR should be recieved back within 28/31 days on Terry Szmitd T/A capitol car park headed notepaper , if it is returned on the limited companies notepaper , then the sar has not been sent correctly and a formal complaint can be sent to the ICO , Mr Terry Szmitd has 2 entries with the ICO , one in his own name and one in ltd company name 

you are at no point dealing with capitol car park patrol Ltd 
it seems that Terry Szmitd has got a lot of those case in his own name (as a sole trader ) at some point the tax man will be informed and he , not a company will have to show all the recepts for payment to debt collection companies and be taxed on any claims he has won , as a sole trader 

Thank you, I have already received the SAR from them actually. I requested it via their GDPR email address, which was given to me by their info@ inbox after I did an ID check (just told them the address in questions). Either way, is the ltd company allowed to have access to my data? The SAR that they sent back was not on headed paper, it just said that the 'enforcer' was Capital Car Park Control.

that should read  Terry Szmitd T/a capitol car park patrol OR capitol car park control ltd , a sole trader cannot hide behind a name , it must be disclosed 
the limited company have not bought the sole trader out , (otherwise sole trader would not be able to start claims) , so the Ltd co has aquired data that was sent by the dvla without getting permission , this has been deemed not right by the dvla and BPA say instant ban for "assigning" info to new company 
email them back and ask for the information commissioners registration number