UKPC / DCBL Letter

beamerguy

Polly_315 said:

Hello, I have also been receiving the same letters, I now have my third letter which says 'Final Notice of Debt Recovery". This was for a parking fine in a flat I lived in several years ago, because I parked in the wrong bay, even though I had a permit. What is interesting is that i have since moved houses and I am now getting these letters sent to my new registered property.

It does say - "this case is not subject to high court of bailiff actions" but also that if i fail to pau they will be advising UKPC to proceed with legal action. 

As this is now my third letter, can you advise whether i should just continue to ignore, or whether it is worth submitting an SAR to UKPC?

You and hundreds of others, maybe thousands are receiving these DCBL letters acting for UKPC.
YES, you need to SAR UKPC for the info they hold on you. If everyone did this, UKPC would have a full time job just replying and they are legally required to answer within 30 days

We can only assume that UKPC have sent DCBL a list of names and addresses with parking ticket numbers. The onus is now on DCBL to prove their claim if it goes to court

As we are now seeing a lot of these debt crawler letters and we don't want this forum to be clogged up with DCBL threads, please join in on the group thread

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6237177/dcbl-letters-forum-group-thread#latest

D_P_Dance

UKPC have form read this

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3229165/Is-PROOF-private-parking-firms-scamming-motorists-Drivers-say-timings-photos-doctored-legally-parked-cars-issued-fines.html

and DCBL employ some strange people.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6237177/dcbl-letters-forum-group-thread#latest

LewisN2

Hi all, i have recieved a few more letters - again not from DCB Legal, should i be concerned or its another ignore? - please see attached, it more or less says the same as the last few letters about "recommending taking legal action" it now says notice of intended legal action but still not from DCB Legal, and then says lower down that theyhave referred the matter to our client to review commencing legal action? they said that ages ago? - thanks

D_P_Dance

They are at it again, adding an extra £60 which they know  is  unlawful.  Complain to your MP. and read this,

Excel v Wilkinson

At the Bradford County Court, District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) decided to hear a 'test case' a few months ago, where £60 had been added to a parking charge despite Judges up and down the country repeatedly disallowing that sum and warning parking firms not to waste court time with such spurious claims.   That case was Excel v Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, heard in July 2020 and leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued.  The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'.   This Judge - and others who have since copied her words and struck dozens of cases out in late 2020 and into 2021 - went into significant detail and concluded that parking operators (such as this Claimant) are seeking to circumvent CPR 27.14 as well as breaching the Consumer Rights Act 2015.   DJ Hickinbottom has recently struck more cases out in that court area, stating: ''I find that striking out this claim is the only appropriate manner in which the disapproval of the court can be shown''.

beamerguy

OK,...... note .... it's from DCBL the LTD version, the time wasting debt collectors letter

READ POST ONE OF THIS THREAD
DCBL letters ... forum group thread
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6237177/dcbl-letters-forum-group-thread#latest

Now you wait ...... and maybe you will get a letter before claim adding the FAKE £60 

It's now fun time

LewisN2

ok so there have been some developments with this case... 

i have unforunately got a letter from DCB Legal, this parking fine was a while ago and they have since got loads of signs put up in the area and realistically have no evidence to support me 

what are your guys standpoint on this should i just pay it?

Jenni_D

Of course you shouldn't just pay it - the debt isn't £160 per PCN anyway. 🙄

Step 0: Read again the NEWBIES thread
Step 1: Send DCB Legal a Notice of Seeking Debt Advice email to put any enforcement action on hold for 30 days
Step 2: Send a SAR to UKPC to get copies of all information they hold on you. (You'll need this for Witness Statement time

Le_Kirk

Is this related to your other thread: -
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6310679/i-recieved-dcb-legal-letter#latest
If so, one issue one thread please.

LewisN2

Le_Kirk said:

Is this related to your other thread: -
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6310679/i-recieved-dcb-legal-letter#latest
If so, one issue one thread please.

yes it is related - can i close this discussion and start fresh on the new one?

D_P_Dance

It is not a fine.  Have you read Excel v Wilkinson?  

At the Bradford County Court, District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) decided to hear a 'test case' a few months ago, where £60 had been added to a parking charge despite Judges up and down the country repeatedly disallowing that sum and warning parking firms not to waste court time with such spurious claims.   That case was Excel v Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, heard in July 2020 and leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued.  The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'.   This Judge - and others who have since copied her words and struck dozens of cases out in late 2020 and into 2021 - went into significant detail and concluded that parking operators (such as this Claimant) are seeking to circumvent CPR 27.14 as well as breaching the Consumer Rights Act 2015.   DJ Hickinbottom has recently struck more cases out in that court area, stating: ''I find that striking out this claim is the only appropriate manner in which the disapproval of the court can be shown''.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/16qovzulab1szem/G4QZ465V%20Excel%20v%20Wilkinson.pdf?dl=0

Also read this

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6279348/witness-statements-2-transcripts-re-parking-firms-false-costs-recorder-cohen-qc-judgment-2021/p1