Why are coffee shops for takeaways open this lockdown?

MattMattMattUK

HarryGray said:
Yep, that's your opinion which you are entitled to but you must accept a lot of people won't agree with.

The government and retailer guidance is not "opinion".

HarryGray said:
I just don't agree you should say that people not agreeing with you have psychological issues as its quite the opposite 

If someone is unable to manage half an hour apart from their partner then that is a psychological issue. Note that I am not saying and never have said that they should be in some form of solitary confinement, or that they should be kept away from their partner permanently, just that an inability to cope with being apart for half an hour or so whilst one of them does a food shop would indicate quite severe issues. 

HarryGray

MattMattMattUK said:

HarryGray said:
Yep, that's your opinion which you are entitled to but you must accept a lot of people won't agree with.

The government and retailer guidance is not "opinion".

HarryGray said:
I just don't agree you should say that people not agreeing with you have psychological issues as its quite the opposite 

If someone is unable to manage half an hour apart from their partner then that is a psychological issue. Note that I am not saying and never have said that they should be in some form of solitary confinement, or that they should be kept away from their partner permanently, just that an inability to cope with being apart for half an hour or so whilst one of them does a food shop would indicate quite severe issues. 

Look mate, if you want to follow the gov rules to the tee then feel free, it is your option to do so and *in your opinion* that is best. Just don't get your knickers in a twist when you see couples shopping together, its really not that bad

Mickey666

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MACKEM99 said:

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jimi_man said:

sheramber said:

A friend reported last week that there was a policemen on duty outside  her Tesco to enforce shopping alone.

That does seem a little bit of a daft use of police resources. 

So my wife who I live with, sleep with, eat with and go to the shops with in the same car and and have ... with cannot shop with me at the same time?

That is correct, she can not and should not. 

Why do you feel the need to visit a supermarket, in the middle of a pandemic, when we have all been asked to stay at home, to not make unnecessary journeys and to minimise our interactions outside of our households, as a couple?

We go one per week at around 0800 when our supermarket is very quiet, wear masks and have individual trolleys and get everything we need for the whole week.  How do you suggest we do it?

Go once a week, with one trolley, on your own.

Listen to yourself..... If you want to be on your own that's fine, I think going shopping with your wife is not a crime against humanity lol. 

It has not been suggested that it is a crime against humanity, though that it is against government and retailer guidelines. Most people do not want to be on their own all the time, but the inability to cope with being on one's own for the half an hour it takes to complete a food shop indicates that the person would have some fairly hefty psychological issues. 

So someone who shops with their partner has psychological issues whereas someone who is scared to make interactions outside their households and sees a problem with people mingling in the supermarket does not have psychological issues? 

Someone who insists that they can only go to the supermarket with their partner, or mingle with other households, in the middle of a global pandemic, when specifically asked not to by the government and retailers, yes, they have psychological issues.

Someone who thinks that it is sensible to abide by those rules, on a temporary basis, to help reduce the risk of transmission, so that we can all get back to pubs, restaurants, soft play, football, cricket, music gigs, seeing grandparents in their care home, having kids go to school, basically to get normal life back, no, they do not have psychological issues. 

Yep, that's your opinion which you are entitled to but you must accept a lot of people won't agree with. I just don't agree you should say that people not agreeing with you have psychological issues as its quite the opposite 

It's not really a matter of opinion, it's more a matter of respect and responsibility.  You're perfectly entitled to your opinion that it's all poppycock but that's no reason for behaving badly and disrespectfully.

elsien

People do seem to be chucking that disrespect word around a lot nowadays. 

I don’t believe the government guidance specifies how many people should go shopping together, does it? 

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Jeremy535897 said:

This article sets out the specific rules the main supermarkets have decided to implement:
https://www.lovemoney.com/news/94072/supermarket-policies-aldi-asda-lidl-tesco-sainsburys-morrisons-waitrose-coronavirus-pandemic

Some restrict shopping to one person, some to one adult, others restrict total shoppers at one time.

Which goes hand in hand with ASDA, where my nana and grandad shop, it says shop alone if possible. 

Morrigan_2020 said:

MarkN88 said:

MattMattMattUK said:

MACKEM99 said:

jimi_man said:

sheramber said:

A friend reported last week that there was a policemen on duty outside  her Tesco to enforce shopping alone.

That does seem a little bit of a daft use of police resources. 

So my wife who I live with, sleep with, eat with and go to the shops with in the same car and and have ... with cannot shop with me at the same time?

That is correct, she can not and should not. 

Why do you feel the need to visit a supermarket, in the middle of a pandemic, when we have all been asked to stay at home, to not make unnecessary journeys and to minimise our interactions outside of our households, as a couple?

My nana and grandad shop together, between them they can manage, if one went they would struggle, problem? 

It'd be even better if you could sort out deliveries for them. 

Tried it, they refuse, they prefer going in person, there fully grown adults, it’s their decision. 

Morrigan_2020

Sea_Shell said:

100 people in a supermarket each with a trolley = more sales than 50 couples with 1 trolley.....perhaps!?! 😉

I don't think the supermarkets need to worry about their profits this year.

Morrigan_2020

elsien said:

People do seem to be chucking that disrespect word around a lot nowadays. 

I don’t believe the government guidance specifies how many people should go shopping together, does it? 

It says that you must not leave your home except when necessary. 

Dymphna60

I know I shouldn’t even read these things never mind comment as it makes no difference. 

We are a year into this and I just can’t understand why people keep saying oh well we all need to do what we want . 

If we want to meet folk well that’s up to me , if we want to shop as a family and hang around in the supermarket phoning folk to discuss what we might have for tea that’s up to me so and so on . It is because it affects everyone else as well. 

So yes lovely for you if you are nurturing your soul , looking after your mental health by not putting yourself out too much to do everything you can to stop the spread , save lives and end the lockdown. It does of course = saying I don’t give a rats behind about others  long as I am happy. 

If you are not a Covid denier why don’t you take a little pain to save someone’s life ? Not think it matters if you don’t try hard enough because other people can take up the slack ? 

Lockdown for the vast majority is hell. So so hard to see no one go nowhere . Not any easier for others you know .
I know I know , it is just so hard to see so little improvement in the numbers , to think how long will it be before I can see someone again ? Will I see my son this year ? How can I get through today , this week , this month knowing that so many people make so little effort. 

Tokmon

Morrigan_2020 said:

elsien said:

People do seem to be chucking that disrespect word around a lot nowadays. 

I don’t believe the government guidance specifies how many people should go shopping together, does it? 

It says that you must not leave your home except when necessary. 

But then it goes on to say:

You can leave home to buy things at shops or obtain services where necessary.

I've read all the guidance and nowhere does the government say you should shop alone. Fair enough if the retailers want to put this policy in place but no point in trying to say this is what the government guidelines say.

Morrigan_2020

Tokmon said:

Morrigan_2020 said:

elsien said:

People do seem to be chucking that disrespect word around a lot nowadays. 

I don’t believe the government guidance specifies how many people should go shopping together, does it? 

It says that you must not leave your home except when necessary. 

But then it goes on to say:

You can leave home to buy things at shops or obtain services where necessary.

I've read all the guidance and nowhere does the government say you should shop alone. Fair enough if the retailers want to put this policy in place but no point in trying to say this is what the government guidelines say.

If a member of your household is going out to buy essentials, it is not then necessary for you to also go.  The essentials will get bought and brought to your home, in the vast majority of cases its a one person job.