Why are coffee shops for takeaways open this lockdown?

Tokmon

Morrigan_2020 said:

Tokmon said:

Morrigan_2020 said:

elsien said:

People do seem to be chucking that disrespect word around a lot nowadays. 

I don’t believe the government guidance specifies how many people should go shopping together, does it? 

It says that you must not leave your home except when necessary. 

But then it goes on to say:

You can leave home to buy things at shops or obtain services where necessary.

I've read all the guidance and nowhere does the government say you should shop alone. Fair enough if the retailers want to put this policy in place but no point in trying to say this is what the government guidelines say.

If a member of your household is going out to buy essentials, it is not then necessary for you to also go.  The essentials will get bought and brought to your home, in the vast majority of cases its a one person job. 

The guidance is very clear that people of the same household are allowed to share activities outside the house such as riding in a car and exercising. So considering that shared activities outside the home are allowed and they don't specifically say you should go out alone then it's reasonable to conclude the government guidance isn't saying people should shop alone. 

There are many things that people are allowed to do which are not strictly "necessary" (such as go to a coffee shop and go to church) so the government haven't meant it in it's strictest sense. 

Grumpy_chap

Sea_Shell said:

100 people in a supermarket each with a trolley = more sales than 50 couples with 1 trolley.....perhaps!?! 😉

Why would the 50 couples all share a single communal trolley? 

od244051

My parents are in their early 70s and they hardly shop together, well before the virus.

If you go shopping in a retail park or shopping area, why not split the shopping etc up. One goes to the supermarket whilst the other picks up prescriptions from chemist, go to Iceland for the few items the supermarket doesn’t sell, or is cheaper there.

Morrigan_2020

Tokmon said:

Morrigan_2020 said:

Tokmon said:

Morrigan_2020 said:

elsien said:

People do seem to be chucking that disrespect word around a lot nowadays. 

I don’t believe the government guidance specifies how many people should go shopping together, does it? 

It says that you must not leave your home except when necessary. 

But then it goes on to say:

You can leave home to buy things at shops or obtain services where necessary.

I've read all the guidance and nowhere does the government say you should shop alone. Fair enough if the retailers want to put this policy in place but no point in trying to say this is what the government guidelines say.

If a member of your household is going out to buy essentials, it is not then necessary for you to also go.  The essentials will get bought and brought to your home, in the vast majority of cases its a one person job. 

The guidance is very clear that people of the same household are allowed to share activities outside the house such as riding in a car and exercising. So considering that shared activities outside the home are allowed and they don't specifically say you should go out alone then it's reasonable to conclude the government guidance isn't saying people should shop alone. 

There are many things that people are allowed to do which are not strictly "necessary" (such as go to a coffee shop and go to church) so the government haven't meant it in it's strictest sense. 

Well I won't argue with you that the guidance is less than perfect!  I think that's a bit of a rubbish excuse for contributing to overcrowded supermarkets though.  

od244051

elsien said:

My shopping trips are a mixture of what I know I need and wandering round looking for inspiration/offers/whatever.
Nothing wrong with that. 
PS I am not the "type" who bins lots of food, whatever that means. 

Same here - I make notes on my list to say how much space I have in my freezer to know if I have space to buy reduced labelled items and freeze food 

Tokmon

Morrigan_2020 said:

Tokmon said:

Morrigan_2020 said:

Tokmon said:

Morrigan_2020 said:

elsien said:

People do seem to be chucking that disrespect word around a lot nowadays. 

I don’t believe the government guidance specifies how many people should go shopping together, does it? 

It says that you must not leave your home except when necessary. 

But then it goes on to say:

You can leave home to buy things at shops or obtain services where necessary.

I've read all the guidance and nowhere does the government say you should shop alone. Fair enough if the retailers want to put this policy in place but no point in trying to say this is what the government guidelines say.

If a member of your household is going out to buy essentials, it is not then necessary for you to also go.  The essentials will get bought and brought to your home, in the vast majority of cases its a one person job. 

The guidance is very clear that people of the same household are allowed to share activities outside the house such as riding in a car and exercising. So considering that shared activities outside the home are allowed and they don't specifically say you should go out alone then it's reasonable to conclude the government guidance isn't saying people should shop alone. 

There are many things that people are allowed to do which are not strictly "necessary" (such as go to a coffee shop and go to church) so the government haven't meant it in it's strictest sense. 

Well I won't argue with you that the guidance is less than perfect!  I think that's a bit of a rubbish excuse for contributing to overcrowded supermarkets though.  

I certainly wouldn't go into an overcrowded supermarket with my partner. The last couple times I have been shopping there has never been any queue and I've never seen a supermarket so quiet; only 10 customers in the whole supermarket I would estimate. 

Morrigan_2020

Tokmon said:

Morrigan_2020 said:

Tokmon said:

Morrigan_2020 said:

Tokmon said:

Morrigan_2020 said:

elsien said:

People do seem to be chucking that disrespect word around a lot nowadays. 

I don’t believe the government guidance specifies how many people should go shopping together, does it? 

It says that you must not leave your home except when necessary. 

But then it goes on to say:

You can leave home to buy things at shops or obtain services where necessary.

I've read all the guidance and nowhere does the government say you should shop alone. Fair enough if the retailers want to put this policy in place but no point in trying to say this is what the government guidelines say.

If a member of your household is going out to buy essentials, it is not then necessary for you to also go.  The essentials will get bought and brought to your home, in the vast majority of cases its a one person job. 

The guidance is very clear that people of the same household are allowed to share activities outside the house such as riding in a car and exercising. So considering that shared activities outside the home are allowed and they don't specifically say you should go out alone then it's reasonable to conclude the government guidance isn't saying people should shop alone. 

There are many things that people are allowed to do which are not strictly "necessary" (such as go to a coffee shop and go to church) so the government haven't meant it in it's strictest sense. 

Well I won't argue with you that the guidance is less than perfect!  I think that's a bit of a rubbish excuse for contributing to overcrowded supermarkets though.  

I certainly wouldn't go into an overcrowded supermarket with my partner. The last couple times I have been shopping there has never been any queue and I've never seen a supermarket so quiet; only 10 customers in the whole supermarket I would estimate. 

That will be because most people are following the guidance. 

Tokmon

Morrigan_2020 said:

Tokmon said:

Morrigan_2020 said:

Tokmon said:

Morrigan_2020 said:

Tokmon said:

Morrigan_2020 said:

elsien said:

People do seem to be chucking that disrespect word around a lot nowadays. 

I don’t believe the government guidance specifies how many people should go shopping together, does it? 

It says that you must not leave your home except when necessary. 

But then it goes on to say:

You can leave home to buy things at shops or obtain services where necessary.

I've read all the guidance and nowhere does the government say you should shop alone. Fair enough if the retailers want to put this policy in place but no point in trying to say this is what the government guidelines say.

If a member of your household is going out to buy essentials, it is not then necessary for you to also go.  The essentials will get bought and brought to your home, in the vast majority of cases its a one person job. 

The guidance is very clear that people of the same household are allowed to share activities outside the house such as riding in a car and exercising. So considering that shared activities outside the home are allowed and they don't specifically say you should go out alone then it's reasonable to conclude the government guidance isn't saying people should shop alone. 

There are many things that people are allowed to do which are not strictly "necessary" (such as go to a coffee shop and go to church) so the government haven't meant it in it's strictest sense. 

Well I won't argue with you that the guidance is less than perfect!  I think that's a bit of a rubbish excuse for contributing to overcrowded supermarkets though.  

I certainly wouldn't go into an overcrowded supermarket with my partner. The last couple times I have been shopping there has never been any queue and I've never seen a supermarket so quiet; only 10 customers in the whole supermarket I would estimate. 

That will be because most people are following the guidance. 

Which is a nice change from the lockdown in march where panic buying was causing longer queues due to the big increase in what people were buying. 
So as the supermarkets are quiet at the times I shop (even when other people are shopping together) then I don't see a problem with shopping as a couple. 
I'm sure some people will disagree with that but if this was something that considered important then it would be specifically stated in government guidance or law.

Mickey666

Tokmon said:

Morrigan_2020 said:

Tokmon said:

Morrigan_2020 said:

elsien said:

People do seem to be chucking that disrespect word around a lot nowadays. 

I don’t believe the government guidance specifies how many people should go shopping together, does it? 

It says that you must not leave your home except when necessary. 

But then it goes on to say:

You can leave home to buy things at shops or obtain services where necessary.

I've read all the guidance and nowhere does the government say you should shop alone. Fair enough if the retailers want to put this policy in place but no point in trying to say this is what the government guidelines say.

If a member of your household is going out to buy essentials, it is not then necessary for you to also go.  The essentials will get bought and brought to your home, in the vast majority of cases its a one person job. 

The guidance is very clear that people of the same household are allowed to share activities outside the house such as riding in a car and exercising. So considering that shared activities outside the home are allowed and they don't specifically say you should go out alone then it's reasonable to conclude the government guidance isn't saying people should shop alone. 

There are many things that people are allowed to do which are not strictly "necessary" (such as go to a coffee shop and go to church) so the government haven't meant it in it's strictest sense. 

The biggest mistake the government has made is to assume that everyone will take this pandemic seriously, will have feelings of responsibility towards others and possess a modicum of plain old commonsense.