Car pulled out and hit ... no mot

Dj199781

Scrapit said:

Dj199781 said:

Scrapit said:

If a small child runs out in front of you on a clear road at 30mph you aint stopping so why would it be any different for a a road with parked cars. Anyone mentioned nuns carrying  basket full of kittens yet? 

💯 ill have a dashcam next time and if the child runs out while I'm doing 30 and runs out at around 3m in front of my car .... afraid to say it will have been the parents fault 
But for the purposes of the direction this thread has taken im sure everyone trying to slaughter me will claim they could have stopped lol probably all go about their driving at 4mph in a 30

Sadly cos of how insurance works this might go 50/50 but yes, the third party is to blame. Dashcams are probbably the answer in hindsight.

I've already agreed with the wolfpack that if it does id accept it as its word against word lol
They just can't fathom a situation where there wouldn't be an opportunity to stop and if that were the case there would never be any accidents and at 30 20 or 10 the stopping distance with a car to a car and a halfs notice is not enough 

noitsnotme

Dj199781 said:

noitsnotme said:

Dj199781 said:

noitsnotme said:

Dj199781 said:

They was still trying to get out when contact occurred 😂😂😂 love it

Your driving puts other people’s safety at risk yet you find it amusing.  That speaks volumes.  🤷‍♂️

Taking any right hand turn without right hand mirror is no different you have somehow decided without seeing the conditions the road or the actions of the other driver that I am endangering life somehow 🤔 

We are all going by how you have described the situation and if you drive regularly like that in the conditions you describe then you ARE putting lives at risk.  It’s just a shame you can’t see it.

Yes the other driver is also reckless but two wrongs and all that...

A child can run out on ANY ROAD end of the day the road was completely dry clear and lit had my headlights on and done all my checks but yes according to everyone here I should never drive more than 10mph just in case 🙃 

You’re still entirely missing the point.  Please quote where anyone said you “should NEVER drive more than 10mph just in case”.  Your understanding of the situation is as dodgy as your driving ability 🤷‍♂️

Dj199781

I'd love to see you avoid the same situation 
Let's put the boot on the other foot 
I have never ever had anyone clip my car while I was pulling away and I've had slow fast and clearly speeding cars fly past me as I'm checking when it's clear 
All because....... drum roll ... I've looked in my mirror to see if anything is about to hit me or if there the right distance to allow me to safely join the road without causing the driver behind to have to brake 

ontheroad1970

Do you think on that road that there is a chance that a young child might run out between two cars in front of you?

If yes, and I would say this would be the case, then you were driving too quickly.  Simple as that.  Sounds like you wouldn't give two hoots had you actually killed a young child.  "It's the parent's fault".  Not yours, not even a little bit.  If you can't stop  or take evasive action in time for a known risk, then you are going too fast.  Simple as that.

noitsnotme

Dj199781 said:

I'd love to see you avoid the same situation 
Let's put the boot on the other foot 
I have never ever had anyone clip my car while I was pulling away and I've had slow fast and clearly speeding cars fly past me as I'm checking when it's clear 
All because....... drum roll ... I've looked in my mirror to see if anything is about to hit me or if there the right distance to allow me to safely join the road without causing the driver behind to have to brake 

I wouldn’t be exactly in the same situation because I would never be doing 30mph between parked cars that only have enough width to fit one car through.  And THAT is the point you continually fail to see.

thegentleway

Dj199781 said:

Scrapit said:

If a small child runs out in front of you on a clear road at 30mph you aint stopping so why would it be any different for a a road with parked cars. Anyone mentioned nuns carrying  basket full of kittens yet? 

💯 ill have a dashcam next time and if the child runs out while I'm doing 30 and runs out at around 3m in front of my car .... afraid to say it will have been the parents fault 
But for the purposes of the direction this thread has taken im sure everyone trying to slaughter me will claim they could have stopped lol probably all go about their driving at 4mph in a 30

You’re being very callous about killing children. If a child runs out at around 3m in front of your car, you have the option to serve and crash into parked cars instead of killing a child.
It’s one thing trying to justify driving too fast for the conditions because everybody should get out of your way as you own all the road but it’s quite shocking to try to justify mowing down dogs and children because you are incapable of taking an ounce of personal responsibility. 

Dj199781

thegentleway said:

Dj199781 said:

Scrapit said:

If a small child runs out in front of you on a clear road at 30mph you aint stopping so why would it be any different for a a road with parked cars. Anyone mentioned nuns carrying  basket full of kittens yet? 

💯 ill have a dashcam next time and if the child runs out while I'm doing 30 and runs out at around 3m in front of my car .... afraid to say it will have been the parents fault 
But for the purposes of the direction this thread has taken im sure everyone trying to slaughter me will claim they could have stopped lol probably all go about their driving at 4mph in a 30

You’re being very callous about killing children. If a child runs out at around 3m in front of your car, you have the option to serve and crash into parked cars instead of killing a child.
It’s one thing trying to justify driving too fast for the conditions because everybody should get out of your way as you own all the road but it’s quite shocking to try to justify mowing down dogs and children because you are incapable of taking an once of personal responsibility. 

At 30mph your doing 13 and a bit metres per second therfore I'd have a quarter of a second to think and act ... wouldn't happen 
At 20mph you are travelling 9 metres per second 
I'd have a third of a second to think and act .. wouldn't happen 
I don't drive around killing children as a hobby it was just a pointless argument some people here decided to start throwing 
I could have been doing half the speed limit and in my case the outcome would have been the same 
By the time anyone here has seen a child within the 3m i had at 30 20 15 they have already hit them 
At 10 mph there's a chance of avoiding the situation but still under a second to make a decision and act on it 
And on the road I was on 10mph would be unreasonably slow and had there been a police car behind me no doubt I'd have been pulled over for holding up traffic

noitsnotme

Dj199781 said:

thegentleway said:

Dj199781 said:

Scrapit said:

If a small child runs out in front of you on a clear road at 30mph you aint stopping so why would it be any different for a a road with parked cars. Anyone mentioned nuns carrying  basket full of kittens yet? 

💯 ill have a dashcam next time and if the child runs out while I'm doing 30 and runs out at around 3m in front of my car .... afraid to say it will have been the parents fault 
But for the purposes of the direction this thread has taken im sure everyone trying to slaughter me will claim they could have stopped lol probably all go about their driving at 4mph in a 30

You’re being very callous about killing children. If a child runs out at around 3m in front of your car, you have the option to serve and crash into parked cars instead of killing a child.
It’s one thing trying to justify driving too fast for the conditions because everybody should get out of your way as you own all the road but it’s quite shocking to try to justify mowing down dogs and children because you are incapable of taking an once of personal responsibility. 

At 30mph your doing 13 and a bit metres per second therfore I'd have a quarter of a second to think and act ... wouldn't happen 
At 20mph you are travelling 9 metres per second 
I'd have a third of a second to think and act .. wouldn't happen 
I don't drive around killing children as a hobby it was just a pointless argument some people here decided to start throwing 
I could have been doing half the speed limit and in my case the outcome would have been the same 
By the time anyone here has seen a child within the 3m i had at 30 20 15 they have already hit them 
At 10 mph there's a chance of avoiding the situation but still under a second to make a decision and act on it 
And on the road I was on 10mph would be unreasonably slow and had there been a police car behind me no doubt I'd have been pulled over for holding up traffic

You still don’t get it do you.  Yes you probably still would have hit the child at half the speed, the difference being they would probably survive at 15mph but likely dead at 30mph.

But you don’t care about that do you because you already said you’d just blame the parents! The fact you can’t see the potential danger you present by not adjusting your driving to the situation is really quite scary. Selfish is what selfish does.

AdrianC

You do realise your "three metres" simply doesn't tally up with you hitting their door, right?

noitsnotme

Dj199781 said:

thegentleway said:

Dj199781 said:

Scrapit said:

If a small child runs out in front of you on a clear road at 30mph you aint stopping so why would it be any different for a a road with parked cars. Anyone mentioned nuns carrying  basket full of kittens yet? 

💯 ill have a dashcam next time and if the child runs out while I'm doing 30 and runs out at around 3m in front of my car .... afraid to say it will have been the parents fault 
But for the purposes of the direction this thread has taken im sure everyone trying to slaughter me will claim they could have stopped lol probably all go about their driving at 4mph in a 30

You’re being very callous about killing children. If a child runs out at around 3m in front of your car, you have the option to serve and crash into parked cars instead of killing a child.
It’s one thing trying to justify driving too fast for the conditions because everybody should get out of your way as you own all the road but it’s quite shocking to try to justify mowing down dogs and children because you are incapable of taking an once of personal responsibility. 

And on the road I was on 10mph would be unreasonably slow and had there been a police car behind me no doubt I'd have been pulled over for holding up traffic

You do realise you don’t have to maintain the maximum speed all the way along a road, right?  You know you can adjust your speed many times on the same road?  So 30mph might be suitable with no parked cars, but approaching a gap only wide enough for one car, particularly between parked cars, you know you can slow down momentarily until you’ve cleared the situation.  And then you speed up again when the situation is suitable.

No-one has said drive at 10mph all the time.

And the thing about the police stopping you for doing 10mph is just ridiculous.  You seem to have quite a poor understanding of driving.