Goodbye to private motoring...from just 9 years?

AdrianC

50Twuncle said:

silverwhistle said:

John_ said:

I think that the tipping point for me to try again will be when I can do the 300 miles to my parents, in winter, with the heating on, at about 80mph on a single charge. Comfortably.

Hmm, can't be any of the motorways round here or near London or Brum, but even at 80mph that distance would be around 4 hours.

You obviously have a stronger bladder than I do and possibly a bit younger. I used to do Channel ports to Italy in a day but I wouldn't on my own any longer. Times change, and although my EV has a much smaller range I'm still tempted to try the trip when the situation gets better, hopefully next summer. If an overnight stop is required somewhere like Beaune a nice meal with a bottle of burgundy seems a reasonable compromise to me, although I appreciate some people find both compromise and change difficult.

I once did Edinburgh to Portsmouth in 5 1/2 hours in 1988

<cough> I don't s'pose Sir has any kind of proof, does Sir?

450 miles shortest route = 82mph average
475 miles using M8/M74 instead of A702 (still a single carriageway even now) = 86mph average
495 miles M25/A3 instead of A34 = 90mph average

In 1988, there's no way you'd have done that on one tank, especially at that speed - even two tanks would be pushing it at those speeds. And, of course, no pay-at-pump in 1988. So let's be generous and allow just 10 minutes/tank for refuelling = 96mph average.

Holding those averages is not easy - it requires cruising speeds FAR above the average. Let's put it into perspective - the first time the cross-US "Cannonball" record to beat your claimed average was in 2013, in a Mercedes CL55 AMG - at an average of 98mph, and that required hitting 182mph at times.

So, go on, what were you driving to get within the same vague ballpark as those average speed in the UK in 1988...?

Channel to Italy in a day is trivially easy by comparison - 1075km Calais-Turin, 670 miles, autoroute/autostrada all the way. 11 hours at a 60mph average.

Biggus_Dickus

AdrianC said:

50Twuncle said:

silverwhistle said:

John_ said:

I think that the tipping point for me to try again will be when I can do the 300 miles to my parents, in winter, with the heating on, at about 80mph on a single charge. Comfortably.

Hmm, can't be any of the motorways round here or near London or Brum, but even at 80mph that distance would be around 4 hours.

You obviously have a stronger bladder than I do and possibly a bit younger. I used to do Channel ports to Italy in a day but I wouldn't on my own any longer. Times change, and although my EV has a much smaller range I'm still tempted to try the trip when the situation gets better, hopefully next summer. If an overnight stop is required somewhere like Beaune a nice meal with a bottle of burgundy seems a reasonable compromise to me, although I appreciate some people find both compromise and change difficult.

I once did Edinburgh to Portsmouth in 5 1/2 hours in 1988

<cough> I don't s'pose Sir has any kind of proof, does Sir?

450 miles shortest route = 82mph average
475 miles using M8/M74 instead of A702 (still a single carriageway even now) = 86mph average
495 miles M25/A3 instead of A34 = 90mph average

In 1988, there's no way you'd have done that on one tank, especially at that speed - even two tanks would be pushing it at those speeds. And, of course, no pay-at-pump in 1988. So let's be generous and allow just 10 minutes/tank for refuelling = 96mph average.

Holding those averages is not easy - it requires cruising speeds FAR above the average. Let's put it into perspective - the first time the cross-US "Cannonball" record to beat your claimed average was in 2013, in a Mercedes CL55 AMG - at an average of 98mph, and that required hitting 182mph at times.

So, go on, what were you driving to get within the same vague ballpark as those average speed in the UK in 1988...?

Channel to Italy in a day is trivially easy by comparison - 1075km Calais-Turin, 670 miles, autoroute/autostrada all the way. 11 hours at a 60mph average.

Not Edinburgh to Portsmouth of course, but back in the early 90’s I could usually make the 205-mile journey from our ‘silicon valley’ office to my home in Cheshire in 2.5hrs. M4, A404, M40, M42, M5, M6, et al. Strangely enough it’s an average of 82mph as well, in a Cavalier Sri,...not a Porsche 911. Fuel usage for the 205 miles was about 6 gallons which was approx half a tank.

That was a Saturday evening run though,...a Friday evening journey would usually be double that time,...and often much longer.

Going off @John_ earlier posts his prestigious Tesla model ‘S’ would have struggled to do either the Friday or Saturday journey without needing a leccy top-up (30-40mins??) somewhere along the way.

Mickey666

AdrianC said:

50Twuncle said:

silverwhistle said:

John_ said:

I think that the tipping point for me to try again will be when I can do the 300 miles to my parents, in winter, with the heating on, at about 80mph on a single charge. Comfortably.

Hmm, can't be any of the motorways round here or near London or Brum, but even at 80mph that distance would be around 4 hours.

You obviously have a stronger bladder than I do and possibly a bit younger. I used to do Channel ports to Italy in a day but I wouldn't on my own any longer. Times change, and although my EV has a much smaller range I'm still tempted to try the trip when the situation gets better, hopefully next summer. If an overnight stop is required somewhere like Beaune a nice meal with a bottle of burgundy seems a reasonable compromise to me, although I appreciate some people find both compromise and change difficult.

I once did Edinburgh to Portsmouth in 5 1/2 hours in 1988

<cough> I don't s'pose Sir has any kind of proof, does Sir?

450 miles shortest route = 82mph average
475 miles using M8/M74 instead of A702 (still a single carriageway even now) = 86mph average
495 miles M25/A3 instead of A34 = 90mph average

In 1988, there's no way you'd have done that on one tank, especially at that speed - even two tanks would be pushing it at those speeds. And, of course, no pay-at-pump in 1988. So let's be generous and allow just 10 minutes/tank for refuelling = 96mph average.

Holding those averages is not easy - it requires cruising speeds FAR above the average. Let's put it into perspective - the first time the cross-US "Cannonball" record to beat your claimed average was in 2013, in a Mercedes CL55 AMG - at an average of 98mph, and that required hitting 182mph at times.

So, go on, what were you driving to get within the same vague ballpark as those average speed in the UK in 1988...?

Channel to Italy in a day is trivially easy by comparison - 1075km Calais-Turin, 670 miles, autoroute/autostrada all the way. 11 hours at a 60mph average.

I’ve done Luton to Aberdeen in an hour . . . . Well, more like three hours with all the hanging around at the airport  

50Twuncle

AdrianC said:

50Twuncle said:

silverwhistle said:

John_ said:

I think that the tipping point for me to try again will be when I can do the 300 miles to my parents, in winter, with the heating on, at about 80mph on a single charge. Comfortably.

Hmm, can't be any of the motorways round here or near London or Brum, but even at 80mph that distance would be around 4 hours.

You obviously have a stronger bladder than I do and possibly a bit younger. I used to do Channel ports to Italy in a day but I wouldn't on my own any longer. Times change, and although my EV has a much smaller range I'm still tempted to try the trip when the situation gets better, hopefully next summer. If an overnight stop is required somewhere like Beaune a nice meal with a bottle of burgundy seems a reasonable compromise to me, although I appreciate some people find both compromise and change difficult.

I once did Edinburgh to Portsmouth in 5 1/2 hours in 1988

<cough> I don't s'pose Sir has any kind of proof, does Sir?

450 miles shortest route = 82mph average
475 miles using M8/M74 instead of A702 (still a single carriageway even now) = 86mph average
495 miles M25/A3 instead of A34 = 90mph average

In 1988, there's no way you'd have done that on one tank, especially at that speed - even two tanks would be pushing it at those speeds. And, of course, no pay-at-pump in 1988. So let's be generous and allow just 10 minutes/tank for refuelling = 96mph average.

Holding those averages is not easy - it requires cruising speeds FAR above the average. Let's put it into perspective - the first time the cross-US "Cannonball" record to beat your claimed average was in 2013, in a Mercedes CL55 AMG - at an average of 98mph, and that required hitting 182mph at times.

So, go on, what were you driving to get within the same vague ballpark as those average speed in the UK in 1988...?

Channel to Italy in a day is trivially easy by comparison - 1075km Calais-Turin, 670 miles, autoroute/autostrada all the way. 11 hours at a 60mph average.

I was driving a Capri 3000S - I did it overnight - in December !

A74 M6 M5 M40 etc

There were no speed cameras then