JUDGEMENT OR ORDER RE PRIVATE PARKING TICKET

Umkomaas

he agreed that gladstones complied with pofa 

Gladstones have nothing to do with PoFA!  It is the PPC that had to comply with PoFA. Did the Judge really state that Gs (rather than Horizon) complied with PoFA, therefore making you liable?

roythefone

must be horizon

Umkomaas

Umkomaas said:

he agreed that gladstones complied with pofa 

Gladstones have nothing to do with PoFA!  It is the PPC that had to comply with PoFA. Did the Judge really state that Gs (rather than Horizon) complied with PoFA, therefore making you liable?

roythefone said:

must be horizon

Sorry, either it was, or it wasn't. You were the only person present, so we need to take your word for whichever it was. I worry that if this imprecision leaks into an appeal, the uphill gets even steeper. 

roythefone

no a private van but i allowed the guys use of it 

roythefone

i must have miswrote this but im sure sure he said horizon 

BrownTrout

sorry have to say this sounds confusing...... so i am thinking given this confusion is an appeal worth it..

roythefone

sorry i should have put horizon , i kept thinking i was up against gladstones

bargepole

If this was a company vehicle, being used on company business, the whole POFA issue becomes irrelevant anyway, the keeper can be held liable under Employers' Vicarious Liability, as per CPS v AJH Films.

This whole thread is beginning to sound like 'send three and fourpence, we're going to a dance'.

Snakes_Belly

I can see this from both sides. The OP may struggle with presenting the case however judges should be held to account when they get it wrong otherwise nothing will change. 

Appealing is the only way to call out a judge for misinterpreting the law. The Judicial Conduct Investigations Office is more about their conduct during a hearing such as swearing, falling asleep or misuse of social media. 

Odd that they can very easily bought to account for posting something trivial on social media and yet err in law and the losing party has to throw yet more money and jump through more hoops in seeking justice.

Lets hope that the lead adjudicator of the single appeal's service is well clued up on parking law. 

Snakes_Belly

BrownTrout said:

sorry have to say this sounds confusing...... so i am thinking given this confusion is an appeal worth it..

If there is a reasonable certainty that the judge has erred in law perhaps it is worth it.  If the facts are vague it's throwing more money at it with no certainty of outcome.  The OP would need representation.