JUDGEMENT OR ORDER RE PRIVATE PARKING TICKET

bargepole

D_P_Dance said:

Why not just send a letter to the effect that a judge erred in law to his/her line manager, copying it to your MP..  It worked for me.

Judges don't have 'line managers'. Their immediate superior is the Circuit Judge for that area, and to challenge a judicial ruling, the only route is by way of appeal. Only he can decide whether the Judge erred in law.

It didn't 'work for you', your issue was to do with the enforcement process, and you corrected an administrative error made by the Court.

D_P_Dance

Judges don't have 'line managers'. Their immediate superior is the Circuit Judge

 Therefore, in the jargon, he is the line manager surely.,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_management

I do not see how such a letter could be ignored  especially if copied to an MP, who is very likely to copy it to a Minister.   

roythefone

@Coupon-mad i voiced the pofa 2 times then just before the judge gave his judgement he asked me if i had anything else to say i said i was not happy about the pofa decision and he said words to the effect that counsel pointed out about the initial ticket being a ntk as she mentioned something about 65 days.

roythefone

transcript request form emailed to court,then rang court who suggested i ring transcript company(auscript) to let them know i am useing there services

Coupon-mad

roythefone said:

@Coupon-mad i voiced the pofa 2 times then just before the judge gave his judgement he asked me if i had anything else to say i said i was not happy about the pofa decision and he said words to the effect that counsel pointed out about the initial ticket being a ntk as she mentioned something about 65 days.

Was there a windscreen PCN on the car first?  If there was it will be shown in the court evidence 'dossier' you got.

roythefone

yes and a photograph produced in dossier

bargepole

D_P_Dance said:

I do not see how such a letter could be ignored  especially if copied to an MP, who is very likely to copy it to a Minister.   

Letter from Court: Dear Mr Dance, thank you for your letter. Should you wish to appeal the decision made in case no. XXXXXXXX, please complete the Application Form N164 attached, together with payment of the relevant fee. The Application must be filed with the Court within 21 days of the original hearing.

Letter from MP's secretary: Dear Mr Dance, thank you for your letter. Members of Parliament do not, as a matter of constitution and policy, interfere with Judicial decisions, as the independence of the Judiciary is one of the cornerstones of the British constitution. However, the issue you raise has been passed to the Rt Hon Robert Buckland MP, Secretary of State for Justice. A substantive reply will be forwarded to you in due course.

Coupon-mad

roythefone said:

yes and a photograph produced in dossier

OK but didn't you say the NTK was dated 26 days after the event?  Give us the dates again.

PCN on windscreen date.

Date of issue of the NTK.

D_P_Dance

DC, many years ago I took on HMRC over a vat issue.  It took me nine months, but I won.  

bargepole

D_P_Dance said:

DC, many years ago I took on HMRC over a vat issue.  It took me nine months, but I won.  

I'm sure you did. But that has no relevance to this thread, and the OP doesn't have nine months, his Application has to be with the Court by 21 days from the date of the original hearing.