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JUDGEMENT OR ORDER RE PRIVATE PARKING TICKET

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 154,691 Forumite
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    That's good if you can assist him to do this - needs doing.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • BrownTrout
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    edited 14 December 2020 at 8:16PM
    That's good if you can assist him to do this - needs doing.
    I will pay for the cost of the fee the application and transcript (as based on the amounts quoted by BP) to the OP with a written agreement to the OP,. Assuming he gets assistance to do this and follows all instructions. If the appeal suceeeds he refunds me in full. If not and he has followed all directions then no need.

  • beamerguy
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    i included lack of  pofa complience  in my witness statement the judge started out with this but she told the judge that the ticket is a notice to keeper and mentioned and read out the paragraphs above i challenged this and the judge looked again at the paragraphs
    yes it was posted 26 days after so it was 13 days late ticket issued 23/03 ntk sent 26/04



    A weird judge who clearly understood abuse of process ... the fake amount, but did not understand POFA ?
    There are judges who need re-training from 2012 onwards.

    End of the day, the legal and PPC lost money....... these legals will work for peanuts

  • Redx
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    edited 14 December 2020 at 8:21PM
    That's good if you can assist him to do this - needs doing.
    I will pay for the cost of the fee the application and transcript (as based on the amounts quoted by BP) to the OP with a written agreement to the OP,. Assuming he gets assistance to do this and follows all instructions. If the appeal suceeeds he refunds me in full. If not and he has followed all directions then no need.

    A good offer because it would be persuasive if the OP won the appeal based on a POFA ruling

    If horizon cannot comply with POFA after over 8 years , they deserve to lose on a non compliance issue 
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 154,691 Forumite
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    That's good if you can assist him to do this - needs doing.
    I will pay for the cost of the fee the application and transcript (as based on the amounts quoted by BP) to the OP with a written agreement to the OP,. Assuming he gets assistance to do this and follows all instructions. If the appeal suceeeds he refunds me in full. If not and he has followed all directions then no need.

    Sounds good but I have no time to offer to assist with this myself so his assistance will have to be a forum effort.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • also you were right about gladstones saying that they never recieved my witness statement by email or post ,but the judge read out that i notified the court that i sent both email and postal to gladstones and never asked me for proof.
    also the judge was concerned about  why the 2 witness were not present who made the ws and why they never notified the court they they would not be attending i cant remember why he allowed it 
  • THANK YOU @BrownTrout i am willing to follow all instructions, just tell me what and when to do
  • just to add that the judge said although he believes i was not the driver and he agreed that gladstones complied with pofa the photograph proof of the said vechile on a grided box with double yellow lines shows clearly that one of my 3 employees parked on the said day and i am liable as the reg keeper.so on that basis was his findings
  • i lost my case as the judge challenged the claimant about pofa 2012 she then directed the judge to paragraph 6,8,9

    I'm presuming that you are referring to Schedule 4 PoFA 2012.
    As far as I know*, para 8 concerns the postal notice receive a month or so after a 'windscreen ticket' (Notice to Driver) was affixed to the vehicle/handed to the driver at the time of the parking event.
    Para 9 concerns cases where there was no NtD, the first Notice to Keeper being sent via post..
    These have differing  timescales.
    *I could be wrong....apologies if so.
  • BrownTrout
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    just to add that the judge said although he believes i was not the driver and he agreed that gladstones complied with pofa the photograph proof of the said vechile on a grided box with double yellow lines shows clearly that one of my 3 employees parked on the said day and i am liable as the reg keeper.so on that basis was his findings
    So it was a company vheicle ?
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