DEMAND FOR PAYEMENT

Coupon-mad

kelvin.paul said:

Registered and commented the same day l had the link thanks.

Good, glad to hear it.  Did you do both consultations? 

The PAS itself takes all day if you work your way through it, people are telling me (I haven't done mine yet). 

Here are some observations from what people have ben saying and some points to focus on if people haven't in fact commented on the Annexes right down at the bottom of the long PAS Code, nor read the COVER LETTER and commented about those questions (vital!):

CALLING ALL NEWBIES!

Please now make a real difference because not enough people have yet, and time is running out.

An urgent task – deadline approaching in about ten days:

The Government is consulting for just a few more days, about a new statutory code of practice (CoP) and framework to rein in the rogue parking firms.  Read and comment on the draft CoP proposal and the enforcement framework consultation, and get everyone you know to do the same.

You will need to register then log in, to comment on the CoP and enter an occupation even if you are retired or a homemaker.  Submit comments as soon as you are happy with them.

https://standardsdevelopment.bsigroup.com/projects/2020-00193#/section

You do not need to register to comment on the enforcement framework which can be found here. It has a link on page 5 to make comments.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/913272/Code_Enforcement_Framework_consultation.pdf

HOW TO DO THE SUBMISSIONS:

1. Read the cover letter

2. Read the cover letter again and note the suggested extra questions...and if you agree that, say, the 'loading/unloading and dropping off, asking for directions, and disabled people parking on double yellows as they can on street' activities listed should be exempt (not parking events, what do you think?) then please go to the Annexes at the end of the PAS Code and find the one about Exempt Vehicles and state what other activity you think should be added to the exempt list.  

 

If you do nothing else, please comment on:

- the amount of the parking charge levels

- the annexes at the end of the PAS (reading through the whole thing takes hours so if you have nothing to say about the definitions, for example, then skip to more vital points and the annex tables at the end.

- the bit about debt collectors and whether you think PPCs should be allowed to add 'costs' a second time, for the letters that are already within the rationale of the 'parking charge' sum...hmmm...

Responses into the PAS 232 and MHCLG framework documents are not completely straightforward:

On the MHCLG response, you have to answer the questions on a 1-5 scale from strongly agree to strongly disagree, and then put some commentary. No way to upload documents or alternatives but this doesn't take long.

 

 On the PAS 232, you have to click on each clause and sub-clause to put your comments, and a suggested rewording of their draft.  You can see comments which other people have written!   But, when you click ‘submit’, a message pops up to say your comments have been received, but that only applies to the particular clause you have just addressed.  

You have to go back up and find the next section, then the next...

You have to click ‘submit’ separately for each individual clause response.  Some people will be caught out by this but can revisit it and add further responses up to 12 October.

 

Things to think about:

A Speeding fine is £100.  A Local Authority lower rate parking penalty is £50.  Which do you think a private PCN should be like or do you think it should be something different?  

Do you think if all payment methods are not functioning that PPC can 'fine' you?

 

Do you think the examples mentioned in the cover letter are right and need adding to the Annex?

 

etc. etc.

 

 

D_P_Dance

Yes l have better things to do

I was not talking to you , my comment was aimed at the typo policeman.

kelvin.paul

Ive now had a letter from 
GLASTONES solicitors
LETTER BEFORE CLAIM.
What is my next move.

Coupon-mad

Read the NEWBIES thread section about LBC stage.

nosferatu1001

OP - your first stop  is always the newbies thread
Always
Nothing you are doing is unique. Its all covered before .

Ralph-y

 link to court section in newbies thread
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https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/64350585/#Comment_64350585


Ralph

D_P_Dance

You need to understand the rules of the game you are playing, start with the newbies, then,  if you are still confused try searching the internet.

kelvin.paul

Thanks everyone for your help and advice.  Im now going through the process of asking doing a SAR  to Minster baywatch to see what ACTUAL EVIDENCE they have  ready for the impending ccj action it seems they want to pursue. Thinking about it if they have clearer photos or in fact a video of the person driving hopefuly l can identify them. Although not withstanding the fact l did not receive the first letter. So by the time the second one came it was six weeks after the incident.  According to the second letter l had to pay a £100 with no opportunity to pay the lower  exorbitant cost. Also l could not appeal. If anything comes to light regarding the driver l would defend on those grounds. l feel they have taken advantage to greatly INFLATE their costs because i havnt paid the £100 because of the LATE NOTIFICATION.
 Is that by ANY opinion a defence. Im not asking for a definitive  answer.just a pointer. 
Thanks for all the help and pointing me to the info etc
KPR

Le_Kirk

kelvin.paul said:

Thanks everyone for your help and advice.  Im now going through the process of asking doing a SAR  to Minster baywatch to see what ACTUAL EVIDENCE they have  ready for the impending ccj action it seems they want to pursue. Thinking about it if they have clearer photos or in fact a video of the person driving hopefuly l can identify them. Although not withstanding the fact l did not receive the first letter. So by the time the second one came it was six weeks after the incident.  According to the second letter l had to pay a £100 with no opportunity to pay the lower  exorbitant cost. Also l could not appeal. If anything comes to light regarding the driver l would defend on those grounds. l feel they have taken advantage to greatly INFLATE their costs because i havnt paid the £100 because of the LATE NOTIFICATION.
 Is that by ANY opinion a defence. Im not asking for a definitive  answer.just a pointer. 
Thanks for all the help and pointing me to the info etc
KPR

Do you mean submitting a SAR?  Don't forget to include a scan of your V5C to prove your identity.  No need to send DL or passport!  Doubtful there will be a video/CCTV, they use ANPR which just captures your VRM.  If you were not the driver and are dealing with this as keeper, then, providing the original NTK was not POF compliant, they cannot chase the keeper/  This is why it is important not to identify the driver.  Your SAR should get you the original NTK and then you can check.  Is/was your V5C up-to-date with your current address?  If not, you need to update it with the DVLA and also make sure that the PPC have your correct address for service.  The size of the speculative invoice at £100 is not a defence point.

kelvin.paul

Ok thanks. I meant the only letter l had was the second one so the first l knew it was £100 not £60.