DEMAND FOR PAYEMENT

Redx

Don't bring ageism into it , many of us are pensioners or of a similar wise owl age , plenty of us are older than you and can and do use technology , deepy is 80 but that doesn't stop him posting here and many respondents are older than you

So yes you can copy and paste the appeal you made , minus personal details , no VRM details , no references , no names or addresses

You do realise that you do not owe a penny unless a judge says so , in court ?

The figures you have seen are just numbers on a piece of paper , with no substance

Any alleged figure is whatever was on the PCN and the signage , it is never more than £100

It was £100 originally , reduced to £60 for early payment and then reverted back to £100 after 2 weeks , anything on top like £55 is spurious charges that are not allowed

Minster should have issued a Popla code for you to appeal , so did they issue one ? Yes or no

kelvin.paul

This is the email l sent MINSTERBAYWATCH 

In reference to this threatening intimidating DEMAND

You say you issued me with a parking ticket demand or shall i say an INVOICE for a parking infringement dated 31 july 2020.

i believe it is unfairly issued.

i decline your invitation to name the driver as there are several people who have access to the car.

Also your threatening behaviour is another reason why i will not give those names to you.

AS this threatening letter for demand of excessive charge is the first ive known about the alleged  infringement by me or others and I only received it 7th SEPT. Also I have no recollection of the area i will not be paying the DEMAND. Or shall i say again the INVOICE.

Tt has been over six weeks now since the date you say the driver parked and i have not had any previous letters offering reduced payment IF it was me.

AS FAR As im concerned i have not had an opportunity to pay a reasonable charge. Even  if i was guilty of it and as it stands i cannot identify the driver because of the excessive time scale.

My memory isnt good at the best of times and many people can verify this too.

This is the first time ive had a threatening  demand and the demand is excessive for that reason.

DO NOT SEND ANY COLLECTION AGENTS TO MY HOUSE TO INTIMIDATE ME OR MY FAMILY DO NOT ADD ON ANY MORE CHARGES 

 

 IF you wish to pursue this charge please be aware that I will not enter into ANY correspondence and this will be the only correspondences you  will receive from me until you address the points i have raised in my correspondence.

I await your response.

REGARDS

 

kelvin.paul

No rejection letter with a code as l didnt appeal etc as they said the time of 14 28 days had elapsed so l didnt think l had an opportunity to appeal it.

Redx

Remove your name , it's not good to give personal details on a public forum

You were told to complain to the landowner , have you done so yet ?

You were told to get out your V5C log book , have you physically checked it yet ? Are your details correct ?

You were told to email a SAR to the DPO at Minster Baywatch to obtain the missing documents and all photos , have you done this yet ??

It seems to me that they may have failed to comply with POFA , the law , hence why we need better information , so get it asap

kelvin.paul

V5Cis correct.
How do l do this SAR to the DPO  etc.
POFA ? the law what should l do about that.
No mention of appeal opportuntity in there email responce.
The only refference to appeals is on the back of the DEMAND LETTER that says l hadnt responded to the previous letter they sent. Which l didnt recieve.
 ON the DEMAND LETTER I DID RECEIVE it only mentiond in large letters in a box that was headed
WAYS TO CONTACT US.
In large letters saying

PLEASE NOT THAT WE ARE UNABLE TO ACCEPT APPEALS BY TELEPHONE.
No mention of how l appeal etc on THIS charge letter.
KP

Coupon-mad

Sounds like they consider you appealed too late to be offered POPLA, which is not great anyway, so it's no loss!

Stop responding but keep all letters and come back here if they get a solicitor to send a Letter before Claim.

You could certainly complain to your MP, which is always a good idea, and tell him/her about the two BSI/Government consultations below and encourage your MP to respond as well as you

AND - please now make a real difference - A TASK FOR SEPTEMBER.

The Government is (this month only) consulting about a new statutory code of practice (CoP) and framework to rein in the rogue parking firms.  Read and comment on the draft CoP proposal and the enforcement framework consultation, and get everyone you know to do the same.

You will need to register to comment on the CoP and enter an occupation even if you are retired or a homemaker, but otherwise it is easy to navigate, and comment upon each section/subsection individually. You can save comments to edit later and or submit comments once you are happy with them.

https://standardsdevelopment.bsigroup.com/projects/2020-00193#/section

You do not need to register to comment on the enforcement framework which can be found here. It has a link on page 5 to make comments.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/913272/Code_Enforcement_Framework_consultation.pdf

At the very least, we say the parking charge level should be £50/£25 or higher level £70/£35, as per Council PCNs in E&W.  

And we say the added fake 'debt recovery' costs are just double counting the cost of letters, and MUST GO because that is unfair and illegal.

Please be heard.  You can bet the hundreds of PPCs will be commenting.

No apologies for repeating this vital 'call for action' to consumers, on every thread this month!

KeithP

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To help with that, have a read of this item from the Forum's FAQs:

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In most circumstances, we don't allow this.

The only reason we will change your username is if it puts your privacy at risk e.g. you've inadvertently registered using your name, email address or something which gives away your identity within your username.

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Redx

POFA is an 8 year old law , so enacted when you were a sprightly fifty something 🙃

Read about it and Keeper liability compliance

A SAR is explained in the newbies FAQ sticky thread near the top of the forum , in the second post , eMail it with a copy of your V5C attached , to the DPO listed on the Minster Baywatch privacy webpage

Do not respond any further to their letters or threats

Do not ignore a court claim pack from the CCBC in Northampton , within 6 years , plus as mentioned above come back if you get an LBC in the meantime

Acronyms are explained in the newbies FAQ sticky thread , post 5

kelvin.paul

Thank you for your assistance and to all contributors to my issue.
As of yet nothing more from Minster Baywatch.  So l now have to sit here and wait to see if l get a small claims court date from them in the next 6 years or so. 
That seems unfair as lve already corresponded and clearly made my position clear to them.  I could possibly understand they had 6 years if they had had no contact with the keeper initially but surly thats not fair or sustainable to be able to hold that over my head now.
Surly they have to show due diligence in the way they pursue invoices and 6 years seems excessive one correspondence starts.
 Surely they should make a final decision in a timely manner.
KP

Redx

Fair does not come into it , the law regarding 6 years has been in place since 1973 !!

If you want changes then you need to complete 2 tasks

1) complain to your local MP in writing , usually by email

2) complete the 2 current government surveys on this topic , the BSI survey and the Mhclg survey , see recent posts by coupon mad for the links and advice , one of those posts is in this thread higher up

It's about procedures and law , not about being fair