Grandparents and childcare

bradders1983

Dont think any of that is relevant tbh. I dont care too much that you were breaking them before, it has just been pointed out that you were.

jon81uk

matilda.cs said:

To those saying “you’ve been breaking the rules along” please don’t forget that it’s been summer holidays for 2 months and before that we were in lockdown. 

Summer holidays and lockdown isn't really relevant.

You are trying to make out that the changes from Monday make things harder for you. Current advice means you can't do your plan either. All that changes from Monday is that its possible to be fined. Your plan wasn't advised under the no more than two households indoors rule and still isn't advised under the no more than six people rule.
I'm assuming as you haven't answered about support bubbles that you aren't a single parent?

Otherwise if you were happy going against the advice from the government that no more than two households should gather indoors, then continue to go against the rules.

matilda.cs

Support bubbles only apply to single parents. We’re not that, so that’s irrelevant. 

‘Should not’ means we could still work; albeit against ‘best practice’. 

‘Must not’ means we’re now stuck. 

We had been providing 24 hr palliative care and treating ourselves as a single household - if my sister got ill, I would isolate. (She didn’t and we never had that problem, but we were prepared for it) 
I was hoping someone could point me in the direction of emergency funding for childcare, or an actual solution but I see now, there really isn’t such help. 
it’s now break the rules and if we get caught, we’re screwed. 

bradders1983

If an £100 fine means you are "screwed" then you probably have bigger issues.

Just carry on as you are doing now then. In the very very very very very unlikely event that happens, then reassess.

matilda.cs

It’s all we can do. 

However, please don’t wage-shame people who work respectable jobs. We can’t all be in top flight occupations where a £6,300 fine for 6 days childcare is affordable... 

bradders1983

You are being silly now. Quite clearly after the first £100 you would stop. But the chances of that initial £100 happening are ridiculously remote. Just keep quite about what arrangements you have in place to friends and other family.
Do you think the police have the time to be policing this?

matilda.cs

Do you think bradders1983 said:

You are being silly now. Quite clearly after the first £100 you would stop. But the chances of that initial £100 happening are ridiculously remote. Just keep quite about what arrangements you have in place to friends and other family.
Do you think the police have the time to be policing this?

We’ll see, won’t we. 

silvercar

You have been offered solutions, you just don't seem to see them. Easiest would be if one grandparent registered as a childminder.
Alternative is to look for some wrap around childcare from school or another after care facility; only one family needs to use it and you can split the cost.
Whatever you have to pay in childcare now won't be forever, so if you lose money now at least you keep your jobs. 
Are the adopted children old enough to do after school activities themselves? That way they won't be at home when all the little ones are there and that keeps the numbers down, or one grandparent takes the children to the local library/ play centre  so the number in the house is <6.

jon81uk

bradders1983 said:

You are being silly now. Quite clearly after the first £100 you would stop. But the chances of that initial £100 happening are ridiculously remote. Just keep quite about what arrangements you have in place to friends and other family.
Do you think the police have the time to be policing this?

Yep realistically if they are quiet and keep yourselves to yourselves then nothing will happen.
If you have a noisy event with kids running around everywhere, its possible a neighbour will call the police. Keep quiet and carry on and no one will care.

As long as the OP is happy with the risk of passing it on to grandparents there isn't anything really to worry about.

jon81uk

bradders1983 said:

You are being silly now. Quite clearly after the first £100 you would stop. But the chances of that initial £100 happening are ridiculously remote. Just keep quite about what arrangements you have in place to friends and other family.
Do you think the police have the time to be policing this?

Yep realistically if they are quiet and keep yourselves to yourselves then nothing will happen.
If you have a noisy event with kids running around everywhere, its possible a neighbour will call the police. Keep quiet and carry on and no one will care.

As long as the OP is happy with the risk of passing it on to grandparents there isn't anything really to worry about.