ESA new claim

poppy12345

scodgey said:

Thankyou this what i am concerned about, being financially worse off if i switch to universal credit i recieve full pip about 600 pound every 4 weeks industrial injuries benefit which is 72 pound a week and a small private pension from british coal for around 25 pound a week thats my incomings i dont pay rent or poll tax 

You can't be financially worse off if you don't currently claim any other benefits.

Your Industrial injuries benefit and pension will be deducted £1 for £1 from any UC entitlement.

At first you won't receive much UC because of the deductions but if you're awarded LCWRA then that's an extra £34192 per month from the 4th month of your claim.

Do you live with a partner?

You say you don't pay any rent, do you own your own home? Poll tax no longer exisits, it's now council tax.

PIP is not means tested so won't be counted when claiming UC.

scodgey

thanks i have a council house and im single i get full rent rebate and council tax rebate because i get pip ive never really had to claim jsa in the past because the 72 pound industrial injuries benefit is about the same anount thats why ive got partial years in the last few years being self emloyed in and out of contracts and just didnt bother signing on for the odd month here and there 

scodgey

scodgey said:

thanks i have a council house and im single i get full rent rebate and council tax rebate because i get pip ive never really had to claim jsa in the past because the 72 pound industrial injuries benefit is about the same anount thats why ive got partial years in the last few years being self emloyed in and out of contracts and just didnt bother signing on for the odd month here and there 

ive just checked the universal  credit website and on the bullet remarks at the bottom it says all housing benefit will be stopped regardles of weather the application is succseful or not, that would make me worse off near enough or about the same if im succesful with the high end award

Spoonie_Turtle

Rent rebate? Do you mean Housing Benefit? If so then UC does replace that but it's at the same rate as HB - if you're in a council house with the right number of bedrooms for you they cover it in full.

With Universal Credit, if you are assessed as having Limited Capability for Work (LCW) or LCWRA you will have a work allowance, which is how much they ignore of anything you earn before starting to make a deduction. If your UC includes help with rent the allowance is £292. You would have to report any earnings (if self-employed it's 'income minus expenses' for the month) but as poppy said, from the 4th month you'd get an extra £341.92 on top of the standard amount if you're assessed as having LCWRA, so it might be worth it.

I'd advise putting your details into a benefit calculator or two to see what it comes up with.

QUESTION for you more knowledgeable people on here: can HB itself include an SDP? If so, could OP then claim for IR-ESA?

scodgey

i can barely walk i get the highest rate of mobilaty and have my bungolow adapted to help me i was moved to a bungolow from an upstairs flat by the council because i couldnt safely get down the stairs 

TELLIT01

poppy12345 said:

 if you're awarded LCWRA then that's an extra £34192 per month from the 4th month of your claim.

I think there is a decimal point missing somewhere in that figure.

Spoonie_Turtle

scodgey said:

i can barely walk i get the highest rate of mobilaty and have my bungolow adapted to help me i was moved to a bungolow from an upstairs flat by the council because i couldnt safely get down the stairs 

Then you've probably scored on the first WCA activity to start with, unless you could use a manual wheelchair without too much difficulty.
https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/ESA_criteria

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/employment-and-support-allowance/help-with-your-esa-claim/fill-in-form/1-moving-around-using-steps/

The WCA is mostly assessed with similar principles to PIP - reliably, repeatedly, safely.

You do need to know exactly what the 'rebate' for your rent is, by the way, in order for anyone to give accurate advice.

scodgey

thanks yes housing benefit and i get full housing and council tax benefit 

pmlindyloo

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Rent rebate? Do you mean Housing Benefit? If so then UC does replace that but it's at the same rate as HB - if you're in a council house with the right number of bedrooms for you they cover it in full.

With Universal Credit, if you are assessed as having Limited Capability for Work (LCW) or LCWRA you will have a work allowance, which is how much they ignore of anything you earn before starting to make a deduction. If your UC includes help with rent the allowance is £292. You would have to report any earnings (if self-employed it's 'income minus expenses' for the month) but as poppy said, from the 4th month you'd get an extra £341.92 on top of the standard amount if you're assessed as having LCWRA, so it might be worth it.

I'd advise putting your details into a benefit calculator or two to see what it comes up with.

QUESTION for you more knowledgeable people on here: can HB itself include an SDP? If so, could OP then claim for IR-ESA?

If the OP is receiving HB then (from the figures given) they will be receiving the SDP as part of their calculation for HB. This means they would be eligible for income based ES.
 OP needs to speak to ESA quoting the legislation given (previous post) re their NI credits.
Could someone please check that I have read the legislation correctly?

pmlindyloo

pmlindyloo said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Rent rebate? Do you mean Housing Benefit? If so then UC does replace that but it's at the same rate as HB - if you're in a council house with the right number of bedrooms for you they cover it in full.

With Universal Credit, if you are assessed as having Limited Capability for Work (LCW) or LCWRA you will have a work allowance, which is how much they ignore of anything you earn before starting to make a deduction. If your UC includes help with rent the allowance is £292. You would have to report any earnings (if self-employed it's 'income minus expenses' for the month) but as poppy said, from the 4th month you'd get an extra £341.92 on top of the standard amount if you're assessed as having LCWRA, so it might be worth it.

I'd advise putting your details into a benefit calculator or two to see what it comes up with.

QUESTION for you more knowledgeable people on here: can HB itself include an SDP? If so, could OP then claim for IR-ESA?

If the OP is receiving HB then (from the figures given) they will be receiving the SDP as part of their calculation for HB. This means they would be eligible for income based ES.
 OP needs to speak to ESA quoting the legislation given (previous post) re their NI credits.
Could someone please check that I have read the legislation correctly?

The OP seems to be receiving PIP daily living, living alone and no one claims Carers Allowance for them. OP can you confirm this? Hence the SDP with his HB.