Gordon &Noble Collections Letter

GordonNoble2020

Hi
I have received a letter from Gordon & Noble Collections today stating I have PCN's against me for parking in a carpark 4 times between May and August 19. This carpark is in SCOTLAND because I am aware that may make a difference.
I am the registered keeper of the car, however 2 other people use it and I have no clue who may have been driving it at any period.
I have received the NTK and ignored them because I read the forum, unfortunately these have all now been lost in a home move.
I have never received a letter like this before, they claim that this is a notice of legal proceedings commencing in my local sheriff court, is this just a scare tactic in the hopes I will get terrified and front up the money? because given I cannot say who was driving, its not likely I am going to, I am also willing to state in court I don't know who was driving. They do the usual "we have photos" etc as I expect they would and potentially do.
Do I contact them with a "no keeper liablity" sort of statement? or do I just ignore further, they are claiming I owe around £400, is that likely to go to court in Scotland? I know they cite the big one where they won a fortune off a woman who admitted her own parking.
Apologies, I did read the newbie thread but I have been a bit shaken by this letter and want to do the right thing. Again this is in Scotland, so if that makes a difference as to how I handle it advice would be very welcomed and appreciated.

KeithP

When reading the NEWBIES thread, you no doubt saw this...

GordonNoble2020

Thanks, I did, however these are from 2019 and time for appealing is passed surely?
I can complain to the place I am sure, however this has now moved on. Its a letter stating they intend to start legal proceedings.
What do I do about that is what I was ideally looking for. Do I continue to ignore, or should I be making contact and advising I will go to court willingly and advise I have no idea who was driving?

nosferatu1001

Not to the landowner it isnt. Youve asked for advice, please dont argue about it...
You dont do anything about a debt colelctor letter. 

GordonNoble2020

Apologies if it seemed I was arguing something.I am really not here, I am appreciating all advice truly. I was not aware after a set time period you could make an appeal to a land owner so thank you for clarifying that to me. I will try to contact the landowner.

This letter does not state it is a letter before action - if they genuinely want to try to take me to court would I receive one stating that it was a letter before action, set out clearly in those words? It does say "this letter is your notice that legal proceedings will now commence in your local Sheriff Court" which is whats throwing me and making me think I have gone past any chance of this not going to court.

KeithP

If the landowner cancels the ticket, they would be foolish continuing with the plan of going to court, wouldn't they?

GordonNoble2020

Thanks, I have now contacted the landowner and await their response. 

Redx

We do not know or understand the system in Scotland because it is so rare we see little or no examples on here , although I do believe there is one on the boil so feel free to read any of the few examples on here , but don't expect any actual knowledge or experience about something so rare

There is no time limit on a landowner complaint , plus an appeal to the parking company can also be attempted at any time

There is no keeper liability in Scotland , not yet anyway

The time limit for court action in Scotland is 5 years , via the simple claims system , using the sheriff's office

Ps , Carly wotsit was an idiot who admitted to driving and parking and was duly dealt with, but I believe she went bankrupt to avoid paying it. People who admit to being the driver and to breaking parking contracts willy nilly deserve what they get

Umkomaas

G&N have cropped up here occasionally over the past few years. Forum advice has been consistent - ignore them - and, to our knowledge, no one has come to any harm in following that advice. A bit more important in terms of knowing exactly who you're dealing with, please tell us the name of the parking firm involved. 

DoaM

Try substituting the word Gordon with Barnes when searching here.  

pogofish

G&N have form for claiming far more “powers” than they actually have and making it up as they go along.

In every instance that I’ve seen so far, they have been just a typical powerless debt collector with lashings of bull-poop!