Planning Application - Neighbour Taking Photographs without Permission

drumlinruby

Hannimal said:

It's really concerning if this is legal. If it is, what would stop someone from taking pictures of your home when you're not there? I don't know the law around this but I'd seek some help from a professional at this point. It should be a breach of privacy.

Thank you. You are always warned about posting pictures online advertising possessions but looks as though anyone else can come onto private property & post pictures of other peoples possessions???

Comms69 said:

drumlinruby said:

foxy-stoat said:

As you do not own the barn or the property I am not sure there is a lot you can do.  Why would posting the photos online course you any concern?

The barn belongs to my parents so I'm posting on their behalf.  It's posting pictures online alot of our possessions. The barn is open so there is a security issue....I guess something similar would be would you want someone posting the contents of your garage/workshop/shed online when there's no way to secure it? 

Perhaps close it then?

There's no inherent right to have photos removed. He owns them, and can do as he wishes with them

Comms69 said:

drumlinruby said:

foxy-stoat said:

As you do not own the barn or the property I am not sure there is a lot you can do.  Why would posting the photos online course you any concern?

The barn belongs to my parents so I'm posting on their behalf.  It's posting pictures online alot of our possessions. The barn is open so there is a security issue....I guess something similar would be would you want someone posting the contents of your garage/workshop/shed online when there's no way to secure it? 

Perhaps close it then?

There's no inherent right to have photos removed. He owns them, and can do as he wishes with them

Closing it is not an option at this time. 

Comms69

Hannimal said:

It's really concerning if this is legal. If it is, what would stop someone from taking pictures of your home when you're not there? I don't know the law around this but I'd seek some help from a professional at this point. It should be a breach of privacy.

It's not. But just FYI go onto google maps - they literally do that, every few years, on 99% of streets....

drumlinruby

jon81uk said:

Can you secure the land better to prevent trespass?

It's not as easy as that as we can't make any alterations until planning is determined

davidmcn

Mickey666 said:

if someone trespasses to take photos not visible from a public space and then posts them onto a public forum such that the owners insurance increases due to security issues, would the owner then be able to sue for damages, ie the increased insurance cost?

No. And I've never heard of insurers asking a relevant question which would lead to such an increase in premiums.

Given that we can see from other posts on this forum that even buyers (and their solicitors) can't be bothered looking at planning papers relating to the properties they're dealing with, do we really think the criminal classes are casing joints by flicking through objections to planning applications? If it's that's easy to have a look, why wouldn't they just go and do it themselves?

jon81uk

drumlinruby said:

jon81uk said:

Can you secure the land better to prevent trespass?

It's not as easy as that as we can't make any alterations until planning is determined

But you mentioned its on your parents farm, does the farm not already have fencing? Can that fencing be repaired so that people cannot enter the private farmland, or to at least make it clear it is private land.

Mickey666

davidmcn said:

Mickey666 said:

if someone trespasses to take photos not visible from a public space and then posts them onto a public forum such that the owners insurance increases due to security issues, would the owner then be able to sue for damages, ie the increased insurance cost?

No. And I've never heard of insurers asking a relevant question which would lead to such an increase in premiums.

Given that we can see from other posts on this forum that even buyers (and their solicitors) can't be bothered looking at planning papers relating to the properties they're dealing with, do we really think the criminal classes are casing joints by flicking through objections to planning applications? If it's that's easy to have a look, why wouldn't they just go and do it themselves?

I get that, but there is what happens in practice and what happens in law.  I know from personal experience that many people have no respect for private land and think nothing of tresspassing, littering, flytipping etc, especially in and around farms.

I believe there are some laws surrounding privacy matters, from what I've read of celebrities suing for invasion of their privacy, though I don't know the details and no doubt any legal action would be costly.

I know that photos belong to the photographer, no matter the subject, and that anything visible from a public place can be photographed, but trespassing to take photos must surely be an invasion of privacy?

davidmcn

Mickey666 said:

davidmcn said:

Mickey666 said:

if someone trespasses to take photos not visible from a public space and then posts them onto a public forum such that the owners insurance increases due to security issues, would the owner then be able to sue for damages, ie the increased insurance cost?

No. And I've never heard of insurers asking a relevant question which would lead to such an increase in premiums.

Given that we can see from other posts on this forum that even buyers (and their solicitors) can't be bothered looking at planning papers relating to the properties they're dealing with, do we really think the criminal classes are casing joints by flicking through objections to planning applications? If it's that's easy to have a look, why wouldn't they just go and do it themselves?

trespassing to take photos must surely be an invasion of privacy?

Not something which is actionable though. Invasion of privacy court actions have been about e.g. paparazzi taking photos of people in circumstances where there'd be an expectation of privacy. Can't see it covering some pics of a barn.

dimbo61

So pop round and take photos of their house and rear garden. Sit outside and take photos of the them coming and going 
See how they feel 

wilfred30

drumlinruby said:

foxy-stoat said:

As you do not own the barn or the property I am not sure there is a lot you can do.  Why would posting the photos online course you any concern?

The barn belongs to my parents so I'm posting on their behalf.  It's posting pictures online alot of our possessions. The barn is open so there is a security issue....I guess something similar would be would you want someone posting the contents of your garage/workshop/shed online when there's no way to secure it? 

Exactly what possessions are you keeping in an open barn?  

Comms69

dimbo61 said:

So pop round and take photos of their house and rear garden. Sit outside and take photos of the them coming and going 
See how they feel 

As long as it does not become a course of conduct, that's legal