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Suggestions for a speculative punt?

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  • adindas
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    edited 2 June 2021 at 11:52PM
    adindas said:

    Guys. Have a look what is going on with AMC, the short squeeze has not even started. I am up 102% just today alone. Mind you this is not investing but speculation, so take part in a speculative move with your own risk. Only take part in speculative move like this for the money you could effort to lose.




    Appears if retail investors are now playing musical chairs. 
    The power of the ape nation in the effort to seize the city, the promised land full of bananas. I already make it clear. AMC short squeeze is not investing but speculation B)B)
    I do join the ape's musical choir. Those who want to take part in the musical choir, do it with your own risk.


  • DireEmblem
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    If you are looking for somewhere to put your AMC money, I recommend TBLD and CWR.
  • Thrugelmir
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    adindas said:
    adindas said:

    Guys. Have a look what is going on with AMC, the short squeeze has not even started. I am up 102% just today alone. Mind you this is not investing but speculation, so take part in a speculative move with your own risk. Only take part in speculative move like this for the money you could effort to lose.




    Appears if retail investors are now playing musical chairs. 
    The power of the ape nation in the effort to seize the city, the promised land full of bananas. I already make it clear. AMC short squeeze is not investing but speculation B)B)
    I do join the ape's musical choir. Those who want to take part in the musical choir, do it with your own risk.


    I was referring to the fact that institutional investors and hedge funds are banking profits. AMC sold new equity yesterday. Plenty of liquidity as a consequence. 
  • adindas
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    edited 3 June 2021 at 7:56AM
    adindas said:
    adindas said:

    Guys. Have a look what is going on with AMC, the short squeeze has not even started. I am up 102% just today alone. Mind you this is not investing but speculation, so take part in a speculative move with your own risk. Only take part in speculative move like this for the money you could effort to lose.




    Appears if retail investors are now playing musical chairs. 
    The power of the ape nation in the effort to seize the city, the promised land full of bananas. I already make it clear. AMC short squeeze is not investing but speculation B)B)
    I do join the ape's musical choir. Those who want to take part in the musical choir, do it with your own risk.


    I was referring to the fact that institutional investors and hedge funds are banking profits. AMC sold new equity yesterday. Plenty of liquidity as a consequence. 

    Yep, Mudrick Capital bought 8.5 million shares of AMC., then reportedly sold them on the following days on Tuesday 1, 2021.

    Normally if an institutional investor take a share offer, they will keep it for a reasonable amount of time because they believe that the business will grow. The share price was $32 on the closing June 1. The following day it is up to $64. Should they just keep it for one more day, they would have doubled their profit. No sensble HF managers will ever believe the valuation of AMC at the current  share price.

    FYI, Mudrick capital has about 5% share on Citadel. They might get paid or pressurised to try to dilute the share price to scare the ape community and/or the new speculators to get in. But did you observe the price movement on that day? It was going down siginificantly during a short duration on a specific time but later it pushes up the price even more, bringing the net 20%+ gain on that day. The dilution effect of pumping 8.5 million shares of AMC is unnoticeable due to the size the ape nation with strong determination to seize the promise land. Ape community would rather lose their whole money (with gain) on AMC rather than to take the bait, selling their shares at the current share price.

    If you are looking for somewhere to put your AMC money, I recommend TBLD and CWR.
    Thanks will consider that later. At the moment, the ape rabid community are sticking together in the final push to seize the promised land full of  bananas, will "HODL" their shares until it reaches $100k per share (hyberbolism obviously, but theoretically it is not impossible). It is once in a lifetime opportunity.
    The size of AMC ape rabid community are much larger than the GME.

  • adindas
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    edited 3 June 2021 at 10:41AM

    I have mentioned this before but it seems it becomes phenomenon now as a way of making quick money in the stock market. Watch out the good stocks (e.g., stock with good valuation) but heavily shorted, under heavy attack of shortsellers. You buy the dip when price has fallen siginificanlty. Doing this you are free riding, taking advantage from the HFs shorting the stocks who are paying the big bucks to manipulate the stock price causing the stock price to fall, e.g., pumping fake news, publication to discredit the companies, hiring security lawyers to bring the litigation to sue the companies, etc.

    For not good companies (e.g valuation is obviously excessive) e.g., AMC, GME, etc it has got to have a large apes rabid community trusting each other with strong determination to defend the price action. What do you think ?

  • msallen
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    Steve182 said:


    Thanks for sharing this. It certainly looks interesting.

    The share price has had a terrible ride, dropping from 72p in Jan 2021 to 42p today. Sept 18 it was as high as £1.21


    Ha, yes I have sat all through the highs and lows - this one is very volatile to any sort of news, definitely not one for the steady gains investor.

    These are a long term speculative hold that I have sat in an ISA - I believe (hope!) that they will become a multi Billion pound company by the time I retire, in which case I will be wondering what to spend my tax-free millions on... either that or they would have gone bust :)



    Ha yes VRS is not a place to put your life savings, or perhaps anything if you have a weak heart. I put a "small long term punt" on it in my ISA, but immediately made a quick paper profit on one of its rapid upticks. Later, thinking this was pobaby going to be a slower burner than I initially thought I decided to add another small punt to my SIPP - which quickly made a paper loss. I eventually sold out at a profit in the ISA and remain holding it in my SIPP - in which it is currently down. At < 0.5% of my SIPP (and <0.25% of my total pensions) I don't have any worries over it, but if the punt is successful it could be big enough to make a noticeable difference. 
  • Thrugelmir
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    adindas said:
    adindas said:
    adindas said:

    Guys. Have a look what is going on with AMC, the short squeeze has not even started. I am up 102% just today alone. Mind you this is not investing but speculation, so take part in a speculative move with your own risk. Only take part in speculative move like this for the money you could effort to lose.




    Appears if retail investors are now playing musical chairs. 
    The power of the ape nation in the effort to seize the city, the promised land full of bananas. I already make it clear. AMC short squeeze is not investing but speculation B)B)
    I do join the ape's musical choir. Those who want to take part in the musical choir, do it with your own risk.


    I was referring to the fact that institutional investors and hedge funds are banking profits. AMC sold new equity yesterday. Plenty of liquidity as a consequence. 


    Normally if an institutional investor take a share offer, they will keep it for a reasonable amount of time because they believe that the business will grow. 

    Hedge funds only perform one function for their clients and that's to make money. AMC took the opportunity to raise money on the back of the inflated share price. Diluting existing shareholders in the process. 
  • adindas
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    edited 3 June 2021 at 10:34AM
    adindas said:
    adindas said:
    adindas said:

    Guys. Have a look what is going on with AMC, the short squeeze has not even started. I am up 102% just today alone. Mind you this is not investing but speculation, so take part in a speculative move with your own risk. Only take part in speculative move like this for the money you could effort to lose.




    Appears if retail investors are now playing musical chairs. 
    The power of the ape nation in the effort to seize the city, the promised land full of bananas. I already make it clear. AMC short squeeze is not investing but speculation B)B)
    I do join the ape's musical choir. Those who want to take part in the musical choir, do it with your own risk.


    I was referring to the fact that institutional investors and hedge funds are banking profits. AMC sold new equity yesterday. Plenty of liquidity as a consequence. 


    Normally if an institutional investor take a share offer, they will keep it for a reasonable amount of time because they believe that the business will grow. 

    Hedge funds only perform one function for their clients and that's to make money. AMC took the opportunity to raise money on the back of the inflated share price. Diluting existing shareholders in the process. 

    Mudrick Capital has dumped all of their shares they bought during the share offering in the previous day. The share price dipped significantly during a short duration when suspiciously they dumped 8.5 million shares they bought in the previous day  but the share price managed to recover. In fact, closing @$32 a 20% net increase from the previous day.

    The following day the share price is up again to $64. Should they just keep it for one more day, they would have doubled their profit. How could Mudrick Capital convince their clients that they have done a good job if the apes are doing a better job (e.g., by doing nothing, keep holding their shares) beating those HFs on that day. But it might be if their clients were gullible.

    As I mention previously Mudrick capital has about 5% share on Citadel. Citadel, the major shortsellers of this AMC stock is on the brink of bankruptcy as there are more apes coming down from the mountain for reinforcement to seize the city full of bananas. They might have the same destiny with Bill Hwang of Archegos Capital.

    Mudrick capital might have got paid or pressurised by Citadel to try to dilute the share price to scare the ape community and/or the new speculators to get in.

  • csgohan4
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    Those who invested around 26 USD and were brave enough, must have made a killing.  I am not brave enough to throw the kitchen sink at that stock, even before it reach above 50$
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  • adindas
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    edited 3 June 2021 at 6:28PM
    csgohan4 said:
    Those who invested around 26 USD and were brave enough, must have made a killing.  I am not brave enough to throw the kitchen sink at that stock, even before it reach above 50$
    Well. This is not investing but betting with calculated risk. GME was around US$10 in November 2020. But in early February 2021, it went up to around $400. The risk: it could only go down to $0, the reward: no limit. Theoretically it could go very high depending on how the ape communtiy working together holding their shares.
    Most AMC rabid community would rather lose all of their money on AMC rather than taking the bait cashing profit @$50.
    Last week it was reported short sellers lost around $1.2 bil. Today there is another report of $5 bil loss. "Short sellers lose almost $5 billion in one day on meme stocks"

    The shortsellers are now defending the share price using what is so called "Naked Shorting" shorting the synthetic/phantom shares which have not been accounted for as there are not enough share to be shorted as the people keep holding their shares.
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