CST letters' forum group thread

iipoiq

After reading all of the helpful advice on this forum I responded to 2 Parking Charge Notices from UKCPS back in December 2019 for stopping in a no stopping area outside a station. They originally sent a non-POFA notice to keeper however it was sent more than 14 days after the incident. Unfortunately I was unable to appeal this within the 21 day window as I was out of town for nearly 2 months ( half of this I can prove with a plane ticket stub). Nevertheless I sent an appeal explaining the reason for my delay and the grounds for my appeal based on a template found in this forum which was promptly rejected due to being late with no POPLA code supplied. Soon after I stared receiving Debt Recovery Plus letters which I ignored.
I have now received a LBC from CST Law. Following the advice from the board I have

1. Drafted an SAR for UKCPS
2. Drafted a letter notifying CST law to put the case on hold for at least 30 days to allow for the SAR to be fulfilled. 
3. I have also composed a complaint for the landowner which i found on another thread here. 
4. A complaint letter for my local MP.

The basis for my appeal are:

• Both NTKs were sent far more than 14 days after the infringement (both more than 20 days after).

• My appeal being rejected due to lateness despite IPC Code of Practice 6.1 c “Allow for appeals to be made outside of the period which is usually allowed where you consider there to be exceptional circumstances for not lodging the appeal within the normal time allowed.” 

• UKCPS also failed to inform comply with the IPC Code of Practice 6.2 “If an appeal is unsuccessful, you must notify the appellant, at the same time as you reject their appeal, that they have the right to further appeal to the IAS.”

• UKCPS also failed to provide a POPLA code (although this was likely due to the lateness of my appeal).

My only concerns is; my understanding is that since the NTK they sent said "non-POFA" does this mean they do not have to serve the notice within 14 days?
If this is the case should my defense simply be that I have not stated, nor do I know for sure who the driver was at the time and without POFA they are not legally allowed to pursue the keeper?

Apologies for the length of the post, hopefully I have not made any newbie mistakes so far. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

DASW28

Hi all 
Another one of those newbies here. I have read the ‘newbie’ thread and also followed further advice on reading up on ECP or CST Law threads and found after around 78 pages 😄some info differs slightly from posters/posts (in regards to responding to the CST LBC letter)
*Have reached out to a poster who advised me to post on here first also..
Back story - Euro Car Parks PCN from mid 2019. Nothing received for quite sometime and now have a letter from CST law claiming to be a LBC.
Have seen guidance on responding to ECP (SAR) which I’m fine with however just unsure as to how or if I respond to CST.
Cheers in advance 

1505grandad

"After reading all of the helpful advice on this forum I responded to 2 Parking Charge Notices from UKCPS back in December 2019............."

"..........my appeal based on a template found in this forum which was promptly rejected due to being late with no POPLA code supplied."

UKCPS are IPC AoS members (as you have stated) so there is no chance of any POPLA involvement.

Umkomaas

iipoiq said:

My only concerns is; my understanding is that since the NTK they sent said "non-POFA" does this mean they do not have to serve the notice within 14 days?
If this is the case should my defense simply be that I have not stated, nor do I know for sure who the driver was at the time and without POFA they are not legally allowed to pursue the keeper?

Apologies for the length of the post, hopefully I have not made any newbie mistakes so far. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

They don't have to use PoFA, and therefore they can only pursue the driver. They are struggling if they don't know who the driver was. But IPC advise their members to still pursue on the basis that it is likely that the keeper was the driver at the time. If you argue PoFA, it does tempt a Judge to ask, 'Were you, or were you not the driver at the time?'  You must not lie. If you can prove you were not the driver (or if it was so long ago you can't genuinely recall) you are likely to be on firmer ground. 

But the bigger question is whether CST and UKCPS will get anywhere near issuing a court claim. While there are no guarantees when PPCs are Covid hungry (80% loss of income), I think it's more unlikely than likely that this will go any further. But that's no green light for complacency - stay alert.

Umkomaas

@DASW28 said:

Have seen guidance on responding to ECP (SAR) which I’m fine with however just unsure as to how or if I respond to CST.

Definitely respond to CST, following the advice on replying to a LBC given in the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, second post.

beamerguy

DASW28 said:

Hi all 
Another one of those newbies here. I have read the ‘newbie’ thread and also followed further advice on reading up on ECP or CST Law threads and found after around 78 pages 😄some info differs slightly from posters/posts (in regards to responding to the CST LBC letter)

Another CST fake add-on letter ..... that's the £60.

You need to look closer at the letter .... it says .... "The charge amount includes £0.00 which is for time spent for recovery"

Such a non intelligent letter like it was sent from play school

You PM'd me and I have sent you PM back

TRENTY67

Hi, i received my letter a couple of days ago. I sent a letter when i forst received the 'fines' for stopping near a Manchester Train Station, but never received any reply at all. I have had many letters from the company with differing amounts, and one offering a discount from £160 to....... £160!!! Very generous. As I have not folliwed up on the otger letters, should this one be filed with them and ignored? 
Trenty. 

KeithP

TRENTY67 said:

...should this one be filed with them and ignored? 

Yes.

Start your own thread if/when you receive a Letter of Claim.

beamerguy

TRENTY67 said:

Hi, i received my letter a couple of days ago. I sent a letter when i forst received the 'fines' for stopping near a Manchester Train Station, but never received any reply at all. I have had many letters from the company with differing amounts, and one offering a discount from £160 to....... £160!!! Very generous. As I have not folliwed up on the otger letters, should this one be filed with them and ignored? 
Trenty. 

It's only CST,  just a so called legal who just love adding fake amounts and telling lies ...

THEY LIE ..... THEY ARE INSTRUCTED BY DRP .... load of rubbish .... so much rubbish
Not sure if they think they are Donald duck, Mickey mouse or Laurel & Hardy

Umkomaas

It's a much more scary letter when you have to crank your body through 90° to read it! 😄