Universal Credit - Going on holiday

donnajunkie

calcotti said:

donnajunkie said:

calcotti said:

donnajunkie said:

calcotti said:

donnajunkie said: The point is why would you go away if you have to spend all day looking for work. The reason for going away is to do something else. And you may not have access to the internet while away.

You are expected to do certain things in order to maintain your entitlement, it is your choice whether or not you choose to go away. 

The point is the rules make it impossible to go away. So on one hand the rules say you can go away, on the other the rules make it impossible to go away.

It may be difficult (or impossible) for you to meet your Claimant Commitment and go away. The rules are not written just for you, they are written to encompass the wide variety of claimants on UC.

Nobody is going to spend 5+ hours per day jobseeking while on holiday or away doing something else. The requirement makes it impossible to do what you are away for therefore making going away pointless.

You are repeatedly missing the point - there is no concept of a holiday for people with full job search requirements, as has been explained several times. The rule says about absences allow other people to be been treated without jeopardising their claim. If someone chose to take a holiday but continue job searching while away they would be allowed to do this - I agree with you however that that seems rather pointless.

But they are not stupid they realise most people who go away would go for a holiday or break of some sort. With jsa the jobcentre staff themselves know the rules are ridiculous. They will openly tell you that even though the rules say you have to be contactable and willing to come back that they wont contact you. Secondly whatever the reason to go away it still makes it difficult to do whatever you have planned if you are expected to do 5+ hours every day jobseeking. I guess it depends how zealous staff are at checking you have done the hours. There may well be a similar common sense approach as there is to jsa claimants going away.

donnajunkie

sheramber said:

It is not impossible to go away. You just won't get paid UC while you are away. 
 

The rules say you can go away for upto 4 weeks. Unfortunately it seems there are also rules that make doing whatever you have planned impossible.

familyman28

Hello, I might be getting universal credit because I don't have a job and can't even work at the moment due to health issues. Would I be able to go on holiday or abroad as I don't understand this. I would love to travel the world which is a dream of mine when covid is over 

calcotti

familyman28 said:

Hello, I might be getting universal credit because I don't have a job and can't even work at the moment due to health issues. Would I be able to go on holiday or abroad as I don't understand this. I would love to travel the world which is a dream of mine when covid is over 

Read the thread - I think your question is already covered. In summary, you are allowed to be abroad as long as it is not more than one month and you are expected to continue to meet your Claimant Commitment throughout. There is no concept of a holiday on UC.

familyman28

calcotti said:

familyman28 said:

Hello, I might be getting universal credit because I don't have a job and can't even work at the moment due to health issues. Would I be able to go on holiday or abroad as I don't understand this. I would love to travel the world which is a dream of mine when covid is over 

Read the thread - I think your question is already covered. In summary, you are allowed to be abroad as long as it is not more than one month and you are expected to continue to meet your Claimant Commitment throughout. There is no concept of a holiday on UC.

What does that mean that there is no concept of a holiday and I would be expected to meet my Claimant Commitment. What would that mean 

donnajunkie

familyman28 said:

calcotti said:

familyman28 said:

Hello, I might be getting universal credit because I don't have a job and can't even work at the moment due to health issues. Would I be able to go on holiday or abroad as I don't understand this. I would love to travel the world which is a dream of mine when covid is over 

Read the thread - I think your question is already covered. In summary, you are allowed to be abroad as long as it is not more than one month and you are expected to continue to meet your Claimant Commitment throughout. There is no concept of a holiday on UC.

What does that mean that there is no concept of a holiday and I would be expected to meet my Claimant Commitment. What would that mean 

The claimant commitment sets out what is expected of you while looking for work. However as you said you have health issues it is possible you may qualify for the benefit that does not require jobseeking. I think its called esa. You would need to apply for this if you believe you are unfit for work. You would be assessed and need to be prepared that they may deem you fit for work.

calcotti

familyman28 said:

calcotti said:

familyman28 said:

Hello, I might be getting universal credit because I don't have a job and can't even work at the moment due to health issues. Would I be able to go on holiday or abroad as I don't understand this. I would love to travel the world which is a dream of mine when covid is over 

Read the thread - I think your question is already covered. In summary, you are allowed to be abroad as long as it is not more than one month and you are expected to continue to meet your Claimant Commitment throughout. There is no concept of a holiday on UC.

What does that mean that there is no concept of a holiday and I would be expected to meet my Claimant Commitment. What would that mean 

Your Claimant Commitment is what you agree to doin return for receiving UC. Normally this means looking for work for 35 hours/week. No concept of holiday means that you are expected to meet your Claimant Commitment every week.

familyman28

That might be better yeah. From a operation I had a few months ago it is still giving me alot of discomfort from my wound and overall I am feeling still tired and not my normal self still so ESA might be better. I have a telephone appointment tommorw with UC so will see what they say

poppy12345

donnajunkie said:

familyman28 said:

calcotti said:

familyman28 said:

Hello, I might be getting universal credit because I don't have a job and can't even work at the moment due to health issues. Would I be able to go on holiday or abroad as I don't understand this. I would love to travel the world which is a dream of mine when covid is over 

Read the thread - I think your question is already covered. In summary, you are allowed to be abroad as long as it is not more than one month and you are expected to continue to meet your Claimant Commitment throughout. There is no concept of a holiday on UC.

What does that mean that there is no concept of a holiday and I would be expected to meet my Claimant Commitment. What would that mean 

  However as you said you have health issues it is possible you may qualify for the benefit that does not require jobseeking. I think its called esa. You would need to apply for this if you believe you are unfit for work. You would be assessed and need to be prepared that they may deem you fit for work.

The old income related ESA no longer exists for new claims as Universal Credit has replaced it. The only ESA that's possible to claim now is New style ESA and to claim this will depend on NI contributions in the previous 2 teax years from April 2018 to March 2020.

donnajunkie

familyman28 said:

That might be better yeah. From a operation I had a few months ago it is still giving me alot of discomfort from my wound and overall I am feeling still tired and not my normal self still so ESA might be better. I have a telephone appointment tommorw with UC so will see what they say

I would say expect the worst and then you wont be too disappointed as i suspect they would say that isnt enough to say you are unfit for work. You could try getting some advice from welfare rights or citizens advice.