Private Parking Code of Practice - Public Consultation

beamerguy

Umkomaas said:

why the BPA and IPC are involved when clearly they will act on behalf of their paying members.

Isn't that their principal role?

Of course but as it is their principal role, the word "bias" comes into play ?

And, who actually are the "stakeholders'" ?

Umkomaas

beamerguy said:

Umkomaas said:

why the BPA and IPC are involved when clearly they will act on behalf of their paying members.

Isn't that their principal role?

Of course but as it is their principal role, the word "bias" comes into play

Surely all key stakeholders will be biased, that's why they involve themselves and are being involved to take the viewpoints of all sides?  It's not like the actual writing of the Code of Practice is being undertaken by BPA/IPC.  The 'neutrality' of the BSI should take on board stakeholder views (from whichever direction) and meld them into the first draft of the CoP.

beamerguy

Umkomaas said:

beamerguy said:

Umkomaas said:

why the BPA and IPC are involved when clearly they will act on behalf of their paying members.

Isn't that their principal role?

Of course but as it is their principal role, the word "bias" comes into play

Surely all key stakeholders will be biased, that's why they involve themselves and are being involved to take the viewpoints of all sides?  It's not like the actual writing of the Code of Practice is being undertaken by BPA/IPC.  The 'neutrality' of the BSI should take on board stakeholder views (from whichever direction) and meld them into the first draft of the CoP.

I agree but will that happen ?  The biggest stakeholders are the motorist, millions of us, as we finance those stakeholders who are involved in the code

Snakes_Belly

Given that that the chancellor is about to announce a cut in stamp duty it will not be much help to those who obtain a CCJ from a claim by a parking company. Motorists  should not get their credit record damaged by these ruthless companies. 

Fruitcake

BrownTrout said:

beamerguy said:

Fruitcake said:

BrownTrout said:

 28 July to 25 August is the dates given by the BSI

Where is that information given please? I have looked and cannot find it anywhere other than on the NoToMob website, and that is an unconfirmed comment with no source given.

It seems that such knowledge is for the few or make believe

not at all 
anyone on this forum is capable of emailing any involved body and asking them such a question

I have contacted the BSI and Robert Jenrick MP in his role as Secretary of State for Housing, Communities, and Local Government about the public consultation but have not yet had a reply from either.

exongrad

Just received this 
Dear Charles,

I have now heard back from my colleague who has informed me that we are not at the Public Stage yet. A rough estimate is approximately 4 weeks.

I hope this helps.

Kind Regards,

Shona Macdonald
Information Specialist
T: +44 20 8996 7004
knowledgecentre@bsigroup.com

Fruitcake

C_L_S_Henderson said:

Just received this 
Dear Charles,

I have now heard back from my colleague who has informed me that we are not at the Public Stage yet. A rough estimate is approximately 4 weeks.

I hope this helps.

Kind Regards,

Shona Macdonald
Information Specialist
T: +44 20 8996 7004
knowledgecentre@bsigroup.com

Thanks for the update. I'm still concerned that it won't be widely publicised or that the general public won't understand how important it is.

DoaM

What does that actually mean though? Will there be a draft for consideration and comment? Or will they merely be gathering opinions from which to generate a draft? If the latter, how long have the BPA and IPC already been talking with BSI and coercing them to formulate a draft CoP in their favour?

BrownTrout

DoaM said:

What does that actually mean though? Will there be a draft for consideration and comment? Or will they merely be gathering opinions from which to generate a draft? If the latter, how long have the BPA and IPC already been talking with BSI and coercing them to formulate a draft CoP in their favour?

You can see the IPC and BPA will have this stiched up

exongrad

The Sec of State for Local Govt (Mr Jenrick this afternoon still) engaged the BSI to prepare a  draft code for public consultation . There will likely  be a  month for this going into September. The BSI may redraft the Code in the light of comments and could reissue it it or send a final version to the Sec of State who decides whether to lay it before Parliament which will have 40 days to decide whether to approve it. The section of the Act reads 

2 Parking code: procedure

(1)Before preparing a code under section 1, the Secretary of State must consult—

(a)persons who appear to the Secretary of State to represent the interests of those who provide, operate or manage private parking facilities,

(b)persons who appear to the Secretary of State to represent the interests of those who use, or may use, private parking facilities, and

(c)such other persons as the Secretary of State considers appropriate.

(2)After preparing a code under section 1, the Secretary of State must lay the code before Parliament.

(3)If, within the 40-day period, either House of Parliament resolves not to approve the code—

(a)the code is not to be issued, and

(b)the Secretary of State must prepare another code under section 1.

(4)If no such resolution is passed within that period, the Secretary of State must issue the code.

(5)A code issued under subsection (4) comes into force at the end of the period of 21 days beginning with the day on which it is issued.

(6)In this section “the 40-day period” means the period of 40 days beginning with the day on which the code is laid before Parliament (or, if it is not laid before each House of Parliament on the same day, the later of the 2 days on which it is laid).

(7)In calculating the 40-day period, no account is to be taken of any period during which Parliament is dissolved or prorogued or during which both Houses are adjourned for more than 4 days.


I see no reason to assume that BPA and IPC will have this "stitched up". Sir Greg Knight. the promotor of the Act, has the measure of these guys and will have a major influence on the Code. We too can have a shout when the Draft comes out and while it is going through Parlt. There is a huge wealth of  experience on this site which should be deployed. My own contribution will argue that PPCs operating on private land must state the name and  address of the land  owner on all signage, PCNs and all communications to the RK and must supply on demand an unredacted copy of the agreement with the landowner to anyone receiving a PCN.  Also the DVLA must supply the landowner agreement which it asks PPC s to supply on its V883 form when the PPC seeks   RK details.