Trying to get a deposit back on a puppy

sheramber

Why check out  the breeder after paying a deposit? The time to check them out is before you pay anything.
Who gave the breeder 5 stars? What dos 5 stars mean?

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sheramber said:

Why check out  the breeder after paying a deposit? The time to check them out is before you pay anything.
Who gave the breeder 5 stars? What dos 5 stars mean?

I can't send you the link but it is a UK Government scheme which just added legitimacy to the advert on the pet selling website. A Council approved 5 star breeder who upholds the highest standards in breeding. I took is as read that meant all health test would've been done and it was only after paying the deposit that I realised that health checks hadn't been done. I backed out, the breeder refused to refund my deposit, it is going to court. 

Believe me, from my experience it is commonplace for breeders to accept a deposit before prospective buyers have seen the puppies and it became the only way to secure a puppy. I don't think that's right and want further safeguards on the industry and hoped to find some support for that here. I also looked to see whether there was any useful advice I could take with my court case and then I spotted the opportunity to post my support to the OP.

I expected advice and support on here, but is all I have seen is (metaphorically) "what an idiot", "should've done this", "shouldn't have done that", "I would never do that", basically patronising and condescending comments which just confirm the feeling that being a trusting and genuine person is out of sync with the world today and which is why I will not be posting on here again. I expected help and advice from such a reputable site and every bigoted troll and his wife are on here. Where is the help, advice and support? When we share a bad experience online, we know we've made a mistake and having trolls make snide comments does not help and to those that do that on here, I question why? What purpose are you serving? Does it boost your ego that you are superior to us idiots that make mistakes?

As for my deposit, if I am successful in court it is going to the local RSPCA charity because I have written it off to experience in my head. I just can't stand the thought of the greedy breeder keeping my money which is why I am taking them to court. 

hollydays

Fairplay1969 said:

sheramber said:

Why check out  the breeder after paying a deposit? The time to check them out is before you pay anything.
Who gave the breeder 5 stars? What dos 5 stars mean?

I can't send you the link but it is a UK Government scheme which just added legitimacy to the advert on the pet selling website. A Council approved 5 star breeder who upholds the highest standards in breeding. I took is as read that meant all health test would've been done and it was only after paying the deposit that I realised that health checks hadn't been done. I backed out, the breeder refused to refund my deposit, it is going to court. 

Believe me, from my experience it is commonplace for breeders to accept a deposit before prospective buyers have seen the puppies and it became the only way to secure a puppy. I don't think that's right and want further safeguards on the industry and hoped to find some support for that here. I also looked to see whether there was any useful advice I could take with my court case and then I spotted the opportunity to post my support to the OP.

I expected advice and support on here, but is all I have seen is (metaphorically) "what an idiot", "should've done this", "shouldn't have done that", "I would never do that", basically patronising and condescending comments which just confirm the feeling that being a trusting and genuine person is out of sync with the world today and which is why I will not be posting on here again. I expected help and advice from such a reputable site and every bigoted troll and his wife are on here. Where is the help, advice and support? When we share a bad experience online, we know we've made a mistake and having trolls make snide comments does not help and to those that do that on here, I question why? What purpose are you serving? Does it boost your ego that you are superior to us idiots that make mistakes?

As for my deposit, if I am successful in court it is going to the local RSPCA charity because I have written it off to experience in my head. I just can't stand the thought of the greedy breeder keeping my money which is why I am taking them to court. 

I have learned some things from what you've posted . Is a 5 star breeder not related to the kennel club though?

powerful_Rogue

Fairplay1969 said:

sheramber said:

Why check out  the breeder after paying a deposit? The time to check them out is before you pay anything.
Who gave the breeder 5 stars? What dos 5 stars mean?

I can't send you the link but it is a UK Government scheme which just added legitimacy to the advert on the pet selling website. A Council approved 5 star breeder who upholds the highest standards in breeding. I took is as read that meant all health test would've been done and it was only after paying the deposit that I realised that health checks hadn't been done. I backed out, the breeder refused to refund my deposit, it is going to court. 

Believe me, from my experience it is commonplace for breeders to accept a deposit before prospective buyers have seen the puppies and it became the only way to secure a puppy. I don't think that's right and want further safeguards on the industry and hoped to find some support for that here. I also looked to see whether there was any useful advice I could take with my court case and then I spotted the opportunity to post my support to the OP.

I expected advice and support on here, but is all I have seen is (metaphorically) "what an idiot", "should've done this", "shouldn't have done that", "I would never do that", basically patronising and condescending comments which just confirm the feeling that being a trusting and genuine person is out of sync with the world today and which is why I will not be posting on here again. I expected help and advice from such a reputable site and every bigoted troll and his wife are on here. Where is the help, advice and support? When we share a bad experience online, we know we've made a mistake and having trolls make snide comments does not help and to those that do that on here, I question why? What purpose are you serving? Does it boost your ego that you are superior to us idiots that make mistakes?

As for my deposit, if I am successful in court it is going to the local RSPCA charity because I have written it off to experience in my head. I just can't stand the thought of the greedy breeder keeping my money which is why I am taking them to court. 

This is getting confusing - Are you the OP under a new name?

The 'woe is me' is getting quote repetitive now.You messed up and the proper safeguards to purchasing a puppy have been advised. As for your money, again you have been advised the SCC is an option.

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hollydays said:

Fairplay1969 said:

sheramber said:

Why check out  the breeder after paying a deposit? The time to check them out is before you pay anything.
Who gave the breeder 5 stars? What dos 5 stars mean?

I can't send you the link but it is a UK Government scheme which just added legitimacy to the advert on the pet selling website. A Council approved 5 star breeder who upholds the highest standards in breeding. I took is as read that meant all health test would've been done and it was only after paying the deposit that I realised that health checks hadn't been done. I backed out, the breeder refused to refund my deposit, it is going to court. 

Believe me, from my experience it is commonplace for breeders to accept a deposit before prospective buyers have seen the puppies and it became the only way to secure a puppy. I don't think that's right and want further safeguards on the industry and hoped to find some support for that here. I also looked to see whether there was any useful advice I could take with my court case and then I spotted the opportunity to post my support to the OP.

I expected advice and support on here, but is all I have seen is (metaphorically) "what an idiot", "should've done this", "shouldn't have done that", "I would never do that", basically patronising and condescending comments which just confirm the feeling that being a trusting and genuine person is out of sync with the world today and which is why I will not be posting on here again. I expected help and advice from such a reputable site and every bigoted troll and his wife are on here. Where is the help, advice and support? When we share a bad experience online, we know we've made a mistake and having trolls make snide comments does not help and to those that do that on here, I question why? What purpose are you serving? Does it boost your ego that you are superior to us idiots that make mistakes?

As for my deposit, if I am successful in court it is going to the local RSPCA charity because I have written it off to experience in my head. I just can't stand the thought of the greedy breeder keeping my money which is why I am taking them to court. 

I have learned some things from what you've posted . Is a 5 star breeder not related to the kennel club though?

It is entirely separate to the Kennel Club. The breeders I paid a deposit to make lots of reference to the KC and the puppies ARE KC registered but the breeders themselves are NOT registered under the KC assured breeder scheme - this all became apparent after I made my mistake.

Seriously, if anyone took the bother of making some enquiries about buying a puppy and got into discussing a visit which was anything other than immediate, paying a deposit would be the only way to secure that puppy.

If you go on gov.uk/dog-breeding-licence-england-scotland-wales you will see the type of licence the breeder has, the protection it affords the consumer is negligible. Under the scheme, the council awarded these breeders a maximum five stars and yet there is absolutely no requirement for the breeder to make sure that their breeding stock have mandatory health tests done so they're not passing down commonly inherited health problems to their puppies. I expected, seeing the 5 star breeder claim, that health checks on the parents lineage to be the first condition for the licence as it is a condition with the Kennel Club.
I have since found the limits of the Council licence scheme:

During the inspection, they need to ensure in the following:

✅ The dogs live in suitable accommodation.

✅ The dogs receive adequate food, water, and bedding.

✅ The dogs get enough exercise.

✅ The dogs are transported in safe and comfortable conditions.

✅ The dogs are protected in case of fire or any other type of emergency.

✅ The dogs are protected from the spread of disease.

I should've known, I was wrong, and as I'm sure people on here will tell you, I'm an idiot and I deserve to lose my deposit.

askeym

I have in mind to buy an elephant. Don't laugh, I have a large garden and lots of hay. Anyway I contacted the elephant breeder on Facebook and he seemed quite genuine so I sent the deposit of £2,000 by bank transfer to India as requested expecting some sort of receipt. The photos of Jessica, against a backdrop of hills, looked exactly what I was after. What convinced me this was genuine was he provided a phone number and when I spoke to him, although his Indian accent was very strong and I could barely understand him, he appeared to a very nice chappy. What persuaded me further was he actually knew I had some sort of virus on my computer and he said he could fix it. Anyway, to cut a long story short this was five months ago and I haven't heard from him since, plus my pc doesn't work anymore. What are my chances of getting my deposit back?

clukka24

hi,
I paid a deposit on a puppy and the dog has now been checked out my the breeders vet during her first vaccination. The dogs lower canine is problematic and is going to be extracted , at the cost of the breeder. The breeder has agreed that I am not obliged to take the dog, which I also have agreed to. She is going to now sell the dog to another buyer( I believe, although this has not been done yet). Do you think I should ask for my deposit back folks? She has microchipped the dog in my name, registered it at KC with the name of my choice and we were all set to pick her up and this all happened very close to me owning her. I am in a quandary, she is a legitimate breeder with kennel club credentials and was personally recommended to me by another owner of the same breed. 
The future vet bills for the extraction of the adult tooth, should it grow the same way as the deciduous tooth, would be around £600 if carried out by my vet, assuming that there were no complications. 
many thanks
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Jenni_D

Why would you reject a puppy simply because of a single tooth problem? (I can see that you wouldn't be able to get insurance to cover that issue - if it happened with an adult tooth - due to a pre-existing condition; but money isn't everything).

If the breeder has agreed that the contract can be cancelled then whether or not the deposit is refundable will depend on a) how the contract was entered in to, b) the terms of the contract, and c) the reasonable costs borne by the breeder due to the cancellation. It is unlikely that they can simply keep the whole deposit. (Pets are typically chattel - goods - so common law of contract applies).

Pollycat

@ chukka24

I would start your own thread.

Although it's a similar subject, you might find that some people respond to the original post (almost a year old) instead of focusing on your issue.

justworriedabit

Pollycat said:

@ chukka24

I would start your own thread.

Although it's a similar subject, you might find that some people respond to the original post (almost a year old) instead of focusing on your issue.

People are allowed to post on old threads, hence the fact MSE leaves them unlocked.

HTH