Sunday Times Article - One Parking Solution

nicestrawb

Coupon-mad said:

Do you REALLY think it is acceptable that a PPC can draw up an aerial view of 'the site' that is bigger than the six bays leased, and create and sign a 'management agreement' for that larger area that doesn't feature the freeholder of the site as a party or signatory?   

Isn't that fraud?...

Coupon-mad

My point is that I can't see the Scrutiny Panel and new framework and CoP, deeming it acceptable.

And as for the ‘admin costs’ add-on...HHJ Hegarty got it right in the High Court in ParkingEye Ltd v Somerfield paras 419 - 428 and that was why ParkingEye dropped the added false costs and proceeded to the Supreme court in Beavis with a parking charge of £85 with no false added costs enhancing the parking charge, and the Supreme court said at 98, 100, 193 and 198 that the £85 included ALL the costs of a case (i.e. the letters) before the case was taken to court.

henrik777

Is it unreasonable to take the landowner point when several judges have found against PPCs on the point ?

Of course i'm not party to what submissions were or weren't made, but whether the decision against is correct or not, i can't understand how raising a point, successfully argued in other courts as well as the lower court in this case, is unreasonable.

Half_way

Once upon a time there was a world before PPCs infested car parks and oddly back then  there was no car park chaos as touted by the likes of the BPA ltd and co.

 It just seems perverse that with the rise of PPCs infesting ca parks instead of clearing up any perceived car park chaos exactly the opposite has occurred.

 Same again with the Protection of freedoms act supposedly cutting down on court cases - again exactly the opposite has occurred.

 The whole industry  as in the bit that relies on parking charge notices for income  is rotten.

I am in a position where i can have access to peoples personal data in order to get to that point i have had to do a (mostly tedious) training session on GDPR and data protection as well as having regular background checks such as enhanced  CRB and DBS.

 and yet any Tom !!!!!! or Harry can rock up, set themselves up as a PPC and get full access to the DVLA database - no Enhanced DBS/CRB required not even a regular "lite " DBS/CRB check. It wouldn't take much for a PPC employee to use this data for dishonest means.

 But then again maybe all those who work in PPC land have clear records, with no past convictions for anything like dishonesty/violence/threats/abuse/fraud or anything else that would bar them from a job working with vulnerable adults ( and/  or under 18's) and maybe the DVLA keeps a close check on this

 Because lets face it, there are a fair few people who need help and post to places such as this who could easily fall into the vulnerable adult category

beamerguy

I think that the Sussex county court area controlled by this bad HHJ should be boycotted with the reason of "unfair justice" ........ Those who would normally select a court within this region can easily move into the Hampshire region or Kent, anywhere where this HHJ does not have a say

northcountry

perhaps I should have said 'once more unto the breach'......

zhonguonuren

I’ve just taken a fresh look at the page- it  reminds me how kind and generous we are and how we try to help one of our own in crisis.  The very best against the very worst of society.  

northcountry

zhonguonuren said:

I’ve just taken a fresh look at the page- it  reminds me how kind and generous we are and how we try to help one of our own in crisis.  The very best against the very worst of society.  

Yes, I have discovered that kindness since I first started supporting Norma and more especially since coming on this page. The kindness, humanity and assistance is overwhelming and really shines a light on the better side of the human race.  I am sure that Norma will want to come on here herself and say 'thank you' and also to help support others going forward.  This is one fight in a much bigger battle for justice and a big shake-up wake-up in the world of pcc, but also calling for change in a judicial system that allows this to happen.  Hence the 'once more'....

beamerguy

It is very sad that our judicial system has not moved on much for 100 years and has failed to get into the current century. There are twists that could go back to Henry Vlll and this terrible decision by this HHJ is one of them ?

This is after all a small claims court ?  

Robert Buckland MP should get involved, the government know about the parking scam so clamp down on the rogue traders

KeithP

northcountry said:

 Whoever is doing the reporting is actually shooting their cohorts in the foot.

You'll probably find that they are parking company employees doing that.