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Aldi, Corporation Street, Preston. Abused Patron Parking. Care Parking.

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  • beamerguy
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    edited 25 May 2020 at 10:47PM
    Regrettably, as we are not the landowners of this site and did not instruct Care Parking to manage this car park, we are unable to directly assist with your appeal. Please accept our apologies for any disappointment caused.


    TO THE CEO

    Dear Sir,

    Further to your letter dated xxxx
    Your reply is very disturbing. Whilst I understand that Aldi did not employ Care Parking, your landowner did, and Aldi will lease or rent the property you are in.   You are the customer of the landowner and it is your duty to protect your customers against foul play and indeed inform the landowner that employing Care Parking will lose Aldi business.  Whilst you are paying your rent to the landowner you are entitled to request this parking ticket is cancelled.  I would point out that whilst COVID no doubt increased your sales with panic buying,  it was short lived as supermarkets are now back in competition with each other. That's only good until your potential customers don't have any money due to Covid. ???

    If you value me as a customer, please will you talk to the landowner and arrange cancellation and maybe at the same time explain that companies like Care Parking will not only lose business for Aldi but all those in retail parks

    I await to receive your confirmation this has been cancelled. Thank you

    Your faithfully,






  • RKHX
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    edited 25 May 2020 at 10:46PM
    Update:
    My research leads me to believe that the Landowner is South Tyneside Borough Council. I have found the previous parking supply agreement between the council and Parking Eye that was in force before Care Parking took over at this site. 
    I have submitted a freedom of information request to the council for the current supply agreement as follows:

    Dear South Tyneside Metropolitan Borough Council,

    Please confirm that the current landowner of Corporation Street Retail Park, Preston, PR1 2UZ is the Council of the Borough of South Tyneside acting in its capacity as the Administering Authority of the Tyne and Wear Pension Fund (“the Landowner”), who is the owner of the Site.

    Please provide a copy of the current supply agreement between the Landowner of Corporation Street Retail Park and Care Parking (Anchor Security Services Ltd.)

    Please supply all versions and any other documents you have that relate to this agreement, including the witness statement.

    I'm not sure if I need this info as such, but it all helps to build a picture of what exactly is going on at the site and may be useful to others too.

    Presumably another line of action is to complain to the Council that Care Parking are acting in breach of planning conditions at the site and see if they can cancel the ticket?

  • twhitehousescat
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    is a council allowed to hire a private parking Co? , for land that is actually owned by themselves , note i said owned , 
    either the counsil hred care parking or aldi did , aldi deny it , the land is owned by the counsil , 
  • Coupon-mad
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    Remind us if you have outed the driver?  As this is Council owned (I'd forgotten that, but it rings a bell now) that might be what BrownTrout meant by a simple POPLA appeal.
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  • RKHX
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    MistyZ said:
    I hope you do try land registry OP, could be very useful for you and great for the next victim that comes here to bypass some of this!    
    Just curious, putting Aldi Corporation St Preston PR1 2UZ in at Land Reg brings up 2 "hits"
    Leasehold - allows you to buy the £3 title plan or title register
    Freehold - sorry there has been an unexpected error
    Had this issue when I went looking for some info on land in Blackpool too. I presume the freeholder info is what's needed?

    Anyways, found this from last year, doesn't look like OP got back

    I had no luck on the Land Registry as it wouldn't let me select the site for some reason (I tried the map view and address and assumed I was being stupid somehow)
  • RKHX
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    Remind us if you have outed the driver?  As this is Council owned (I'd forgotten that, but it rings a bell now) that might be what BrownTrout meant by a simple POPLA appeal.
    I gave my name as 'Motorist' when I submitted my appeal to Care Parking. I was following the instructions on the ticket (naive as I was at the time). I thought since I had my Aldi receipt it would be a straight forward cancellation so I didn't do any research. I'd like to think I've learnt my lesson! 
    Has it scuppered my chances?
  • happybagger
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    RKHX said:
    I had no luck on the Land Registry as it wouldn't let me select the site for some reason (I tried the map view and address and assumed I was being stupid somehow)
    This came up from Preston CC planning, from 1995
    I've seen that Tyneside mentioned somewhere too, might have been in a FoI request somewhere
  • RKHX
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    edited 25 May 2020 at 11:16PM
    RKHX said:
    I had no luck on the Land Registry as it wouldn't let me select the site for some reason (I tried the map view and address and assumed I was being stupid somehow)
    This came up from Preston CC planning, from 1995
    I've seen that Tyneside mentioned somewhere too, might have been in a FoI request somewhere
    Thank you. Yes, Care Parking are acting in breach of the planning documents by not allowing customers off site and restricting parking to 2 hours. I found the FOI request for the Parking Eye agreement with Tyneside and submitted my own for the current documents relating to Care Parking. Feels like progress..
  • pould
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    RKHX said:
    Remind us if you have outed the driver?  As this is Council owned (I'd forgotten that, but it rings a bell now) that might be what BrownTrout meant by a simple POPLA appeal.
    I gave my name as 'Motorist' when I submitted my appeal to Care Parking. I was following the instructions on the ticket (naive as I was at the time). I thought since I had my Aldi receipt it would be a straight forward cancellation so I didn't do any research. I'd like to think I've learnt my lesson! 
    Has it scuppered my chances?
    Nope - you've done the hard work of proving the planning permission renders their "contract" null and void. Slam dunk win for you in court. Well done. 
  • twhitehousescat
    twhitehousescat Posts: 5,368 Forumite
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    after the fiasco in preston where i got my ex owner(meeyow) Mr T whitehouse removerd from all counsil property in preston (boy was it fun) I actually have a printed letter from Preston council stating that no land owned by "the council" would be employing PPCs any more 
    define "the council"? 
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