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How is everyone else managing right now?
As a woman with short hair and a fringe I'm now starting to look like a Yeti (just when I am more in need than normal of looking normal - with all this Lockdown going on).
I've gathered there are a few bootleg hairdressers out there - so have been trying to find one unsuccessfully.
I'm told that the "fear of God" has been put into hairdressers by the fact the police have had a go at some of them and had their licence taken off them. I don't know exactly what that means? Does "taking licence off them" and being awkward about insurance mean they are out of action for days?/weeks?/months?/the rest of their lives.
What exactly does that penalty of "losing licence" mean in terms of when they are able to resume trading again (all else being equal)?
Obviously some people are finding a way to keep looking normal - Nicola Sturgeon comes to mind here. Her hair is still short/neat/with a fringe and looking exactly right. So how is she managing it?
Right now - I'm having to keep a watching brief on when they stop being awkward to hairdressers and meanwhile getting a range of "as attractive/meant to look like my choice" headcoverings as possible (ie headbands/scarves/etc/etc).
I did offer a potential hairdresser to do this in a garden and provide them with a disposable mask - but I understand their fears the State might "go for them" and take away their licence.
Hence asking:
1. Exactly what does the penalty mean of licence and insurance problems
2. How other people are managing - as this has all gone on so long that we will all be looking scruffy by now (except Nicola Sturgeon). I was fortunate my last trim was only days before That Lockdown - but I'm now looking scruffy. So goodness knows how anyone is managing that is now weeks overdue for a trim.
As a woman with short hair and a fringe I'm now starting to look like a Yeti (just when I am more in need than normal of looking normal - with all this Lockdown going on).
I've gathered there are a few bootleg hairdressers out there - so have been trying to find one unsuccessfully.
I'm told that the "fear of God" has been put into hairdressers by the fact the police have had a go at some of them and had their licence taken off them. I don't know exactly what that means? Does "taking licence off them" and being awkward about insurance mean they are out of action for days?/weeks?/months?/the rest of their lives.
What exactly does that penalty of "losing licence" mean in terms of when they are able to resume trading again (all else being equal)?
Obviously some people are finding a way to keep looking normal - Nicola Sturgeon comes to mind here. Her hair is still short/neat/with a fringe and looking exactly right. So how is she managing it?
Right now - I'm having to keep a watching brief on when they stop being awkward to hairdressers and meanwhile getting a range of "as attractive/meant to look like my choice" headcoverings as possible (ie headbands/scarves/etc/etc).
I did offer a potential hairdresser to do this in a garden and provide them with a disposable mask - but I understand their fears the State might "go for them" and take away their licence.
Hence asking:
1. Exactly what does the penalty mean of licence and insurance problems
2. How other people are managing - as this has all gone on so long that we will all be looking scruffy by now (except Nicola Sturgeon). I was fortunate my last trim was only days before That Lockdown - but I'm now looking scruffy. So goodness knows how anyone is managing that is now weeks overdue for a trim.
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MoneySeeker1 said:How are everyone else managing right now?
As a woman with short hair and a fringe I'm now starting to look like a Yeti (just when I am more in need than normal of looking normal - with all this Lockdown going on).
I've gathered there are a few bootleg hairdressers out there - so have been trying to find one unsuccessfully.
I'm told that the "fear of God" has been put into hairdressers by the fact the police have had a go at some of them and had their licence taken off them. I don't know exactly what that means? Does "taking licence off them" and being awkward about insurance mean they are out of action for days?/weeks?/months?/the rest of their lives.
What exactly does that penalty of "losing licence" mean in terms of when they are able to resume trading again (all else being equal)?
Obviously some people are finding a way to keep looking normal - Nicola Sturgeon comes to mind here. Her hair is still short/neat/with a fringe and looking exactly right. So how is she managing it?
Right now - I'm having to keep a watching brief on when they stop being awkward to hairdressers and meanwhile getting a range of "as attractive/meant to look like my choice" headcoverings as normal (headbands/scarves/etc/etc).
I did offer a potential hairdresser to do this in a garden and provide them with a disposable mask - but I understand their fears the State might "go for them" and take away their licence.
Hence asking:
1. Exactly what does the penalty mean of licence and insurance problems
2. How other people are managing - as this has all gone on so long that we will all be looking scruffy by now (except Nicola Sturgeon). I was fortunate my last trim was only days before That Lockdown - but I'm now looking scruffy. So goodness knows how anyone is managing that is now weeks overdue for a trim.
Maybe there is one is Scotland (if that is where you are) but AFAIK there is no requirement for a hairdresser to be "licenced" in the rest of the UK. In fact there are remarkably few occupations where a specific qualification of licence is a legal requirement.1 -
Nope - not in Scotland.
But perfectly prepared to believe they need a licence to operate - and can understand their concerns if taking their licence off them means they couldnt operate for a certain period of time (but the hairdresser I talked to couldnt tell me how long this "take licence off them" penalty thing would be likely to apply for).
They must be having difficulties themselves - us customers are wondering how not to look scruffy. They, on the other hand, are wondering how they're supposed to get their normal incomes - so I can sympathise with their position.
Right now - it's a "lose/lose" situation. We are losing looking reasonable (rather than scruffy) and they are losing income they need to have.0 -
MoneySeeker1 said:Nope - not in Scotland.
But perfectly prepared to believe they need a licence to operate - and can understand their concerns if taking their licence off them means they couldnt operate for a certain period of time (but the hairdresser I talked to couldnt tell me how long this "take licence off them" penalty thing would be likely to apply for).
They must be having difficulties themselves - us customers are wondering how not to look scruffy. They, on the other hand, are wondering how they're supposed to get their normal incomes - so I can sympathise with their position.
Right now - it's a "lose/lose" situation. We are losing looking reasonable (rather than scruffy) and they are losing income they need to have.Check with your local council to find out if you need to register to run a business as a hairdresser or barber in England.
You may have to register with your local council so that they can check you’re following health and safety rules. They may charge you a fee and inspect your premises before they give you a certificate of registration.
If you do need to register, you’ll need to display a copy of your certificate where it can be easily seen by your customers. Your council will also tell if you need to display a copy of any local byelaws.2 -
Ah! There might be a possible get-out clause there.
I'm assuming the whole country is the same - but, if this is an England only thing, (ie the losing licence possible penalty) then maybe things could be better-than-normal in Wales for instance???
Is this an England only thing - or would it apply to the whole country?
(is SO confusing when there are different rules for different parts of the country in various respects.....).
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Trim the fringe using a mirror.
If you don't live alone ask someone you live with to snip as the rest. Or have a go yourself if desperate. Doesn't have to be perfect and it can be tidied up later when hairdressers are working again.
Get some hair bands and slides to style it with.
Otherwise you'll just have to put up with the length, just like most other women right now. And wait until hairdressers are open again, just like most of us are having to do.
I am not unsympathetic, I was a bit overdue when lockdown happened and my hair grows way more than the average of 0.5inch a month!
It's not nice looking and feeling scruffy but others are going through much worse right now.2 -
I have thought about whether I should try to DIY - but I am very well aware just how useless I am at anything like that. Been there....done that...and know very well it does not count as anywhere near my skill set. I am absolutely useless at anything remotely "practical" other than cooking and am very well aware my skills lie with "overall analysis of situation" (NOT a skill I'm happy with having right now I'm afraid - as my analysis of where we are all "going" on this is not a positive one I'm afraid) and are absolutely non-existent with anything remotely "practical" (other than being a pretty good cook). You name a practical/creative type skill and I will be absolutely useless (worse than useless) at it I'm afraid - it's just not me and I can make a thorough-going mess of it.
I think my hair probably grows faster than normal too and it's that standard British "far too fine/NOT my best asset" type look and it's down to keeping it "as reasonable-looking as possible" thing. Definitely wishing I'd got long/thick/manageable type hair and watching those YouTube bloggers that have long hair anyway (because their hair is capable of looking fine that way) distinctly enviously.
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So - I like my mind. But I HATE my hair.
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MoneySeeker1 said:Ah! There might be a possible get-out clause there.
I'm assuming the whole country is the same - but, if this is an England only thing, (ie the losing licence possible penalty) then maybe things could be better-than-normal in Wales for instance???
Is this an England only thing - or would it apply to the whole country?
(is SO confusing when there are different rules for different parts of the country in various respects.....).
This is why I was so surprised. I used to be very involved in my own professional association and had a particular interest in matters to do with registration / regulation. That is why I know just how few occupations are legally regulated or licenced, although I am getting a bit out of date!
I am almost certain that the city where I live don't enforce this with hairdressers. I've certainly never seen any licence / registration certificates displayed. I'll ask if we are ever allowed out again.
No idea about Wales or NI but I am sure Google will know!1 -
Having problems replying ???
Would be glad of further clarification on whether "you are allowed out again" as you put it.
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Have checked Google to see if Wales is different to rest of country - but not come up with any useful info. on that.
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