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[Australia Question] - Tracking Landlord Down!

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  • slenderkitten
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    Comms69 said:
    Comms69 said:
    Comms69 said:
    To answer some of the replies, yes i have done quite alot of diggiung, the ccouncil are having difficulty as well I've stopped paying rent to the agent, i'm not at the court stage I just need to get some contacts.  I know he's in melbourne i've found a potential work address though could be old I can see they have social media accounts but does not say a lot about whereabouts. 
    Why? What do you want to achieve??
    I am entitled to the information by law so i'm not sure why you are asking that, if you cannot provide assistance then thank you anyway.
    ... because the information will be totally useless to you in any meaningful way. Unless you're planning on surprising your landlord by an impromptu trip down under, the address ins Australia has zero use to you. 

    You say you're not at court stage yet. But Australia is a different court system to the UK (and that in itself varies from E+W, S, and NI). Serving 'notice' there would be at best a grey area; and strictly speaking not valid unless you meet the requirements laid out: https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part06/pd_part06b

    Now if you have an actual issue, that's what people here can help with.
    It has nothing to do with Australia law as the property is in Scotland, Scotland now has a service by an advertisement for those that do not have landlord details so there is a way for me to take action but before i do that i want to track him down.   

    Again i am looking for information on some sort of voter roll that i could access in Australia, as per my original question. 
    If you intend to serve notice on someone in a foreign jurisdiction, then the local law very much does apply! Enforcing a court order overseas is especially difficult - and given that's where the landlord is, that's what you'll be doing (especially since you hinted that the property is in negative equity and therefore nothing for you to claim against). 

    But clearly you know more than me about the legal process, so i'll bow out. 

    Best i could find (ok the first result on google which took less time than typing this sentence) https://www.nla.gov.au/research-guides/australian-electoral-rolls
    I haven't' stated anything to do with negative equity or the condition of the house so no idea where you getting that from I am a tennant and there are a great many  laws he has broken, that is all i am prepared to say. 
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  • Thrugelmir
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    Comms69 said:
    Comms69 said:
    Comms69 said:
    To answer some of the replies, yes i have done quite alot of diggiung, the ccouncil are having difficulty as well I've stopped paying rent to the agent, i'm not at the court stage I just need to get some contacts.  I know he's in melbourne i've found a potential work address though could be old I can see they have social media accounts but does not say a lot about whereabouts. 
    Why? What do you want to achieve??
    I am entitled to the information by law so i'm not sure why you are asking that, if you cannot provide assistance then thank you anyway.
    ... because the information will be totally useless to you in any meaningful way. Unless you're planning on surprising your landlord by an impromptu trip down under, the address ins Australia has zero use to you. 

    You say you're not at court stage yet. But Australia is a different court system to the UK (and that in itself varies from E+W, S, and NI). Serving 'notice' there would be at best a grey area; and strictly speaking not valid unless you meet the requirements laid out: https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part06/pd_part06b

    Now if you have an actual issue, that's what people here can help with.
    It has nothing to do with Australia law as the property is in Scotland, Scotland now has a service by an advertisement for those that do not have landlord details so there is a way for me to take action but before i do that i want to track him down.   

    Again i am looking for information on some sort of voter roll that i could access in Australia, as per my original question. 
    If you intend to serve notice on someone in a foreign jurisdiction, then the local law very much does apply! Enforcing a court order overseas is especially difficult - and given that's where the landlord is, that's what you'll be doing (especially since you hinted that the property is in negative equity and therefore nothing for you to claim against). 


    If that's correct. Then entirely predictable what course of action the LL will take, i.e. walk away.
  • Comms69
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    Comms69 said:
    Comms69 said:
    Comms69 said:
    To answer some of the replies, yes i have done quite alot of diggiung, the ccouncil are having difficulty as well I've stopped paying rent to the agent, i'm not at the court stage I just need to get some contacts.  I know he's in melbourne i've found a potential work address though could be old I can see they have social media accounts but does not say a lot about whereabouts. 
    Why? What do you want to achieve??
    I am entitled to the information by law so i'm not sure why you are asking that, if you cannot provide assistance then thank you anyway.
    ... because the information will be totally useless to you in any meaningful way. Unless you're planning on surprising your landlord by an impromptu trip down under, the address ins Australia has zero use to you. 

    You say you're not at court stage yet. But Australia is a different court system to the UK (and that in itself varies from E+W, S, and NI). Serving 'notice' there would be at best a grey area; and strictly speaking not valid unless you meet the requirements laid out: https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part06/pd_part06b

    Now if you have an actual issue, that's what people here can help with.
    It has nothing to do with Australia law as the property is in Scotland, Scotland now has a service by an advertisement for those that do not have landlord details so there is a way for me to take action but before i do that i want to track him down.   

    Again i am looking for information on some sort of voter roll that i could access in Australia, as per my original question. 
    If you intend to serve notice on someone in a foreign jurisdiction, then the local law very much does apply! Enforcing a court order overseas is especially difficult - and given that's where the landlord is, that's what you'll be doing (especially since you hinted that the property is in negative equity and therefore nothing for you to claim against). 

    But clearly you know more than me about the legal process, so i'll bow out. 

    Best i could find (ok the first result on google which took less time than typing this sentence) https://www.nla.gov.au/research-guides/australian-electoral-rolls
    I haven't' stated anything to do with negative equity or the condition of the house so no idea where you getting that from I am a tennant and there are a great many  laws he has broken, that is all i am prepared to say. 
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6119635/scotland-question-renting-buy-to-let-mortgage-or-not#latest

    4 weeks ago, your opening post says you believe it to be in negative equity. (as well as needing £10k+ in repairs)

    That is all im prepared to say also, good day.
  • slenderkitten
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    So what has that post got to do with this "what I believe and what I know" are two different things, all I have asked for on this thread is help to locate the landlord.  Your contribution has not helped only upset me, I've already taken legal advice and I need to track him down as the authorities also need to contact him if you understand that you will know this is a big issue!   
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  • Comms69
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    So what has that post got to do with this "what I believe and what I know" are two different things, all I have asked for on this thread is help to locate the landlord.  Your contribution has not helped only upset me, I've already taken legal advice and I need to track him down as the authorities also need to contact him if you understand that you will know this is a big issue!   
    I'm certainly not trying to upset you, so i hope that such feelings are brief and non-consequential.

    You can hire a private investigator if you wish, though the cost may be prohibitive. 

    If the authorities want to contact him, they have much more clout and financial backing to do so. I would suggest that you leave this in their hands if that is the case. If they are unwilling, it is unlikely that any action would be useful.

    You should also be aware that the majority of offences under the law, either in E+W or Scotland, are offences against the crown and the state. So if he has broken numerous laws, chances are that you would not benefit from any prosecution. 

    In any case my point still stands, the only asset is the property there. and if the council is involved, they will get first dibs at any equity in that to pay off the substantial costs. 

    If you want actual advice on the actual problem, and how to best resolve it so YOU benefit, feel free to post the details. 
  • slenderkitten
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    Comms69 said:
    So what has that post got to do with this "what I believe and what I know" are two different things, all I have asked for on this thread is help to locate the landlord.  Your contribution has not helped only upset me, I've already taken legal advice and I need to track him down as the authorities also need to contact him if you understand that you will know this is a big issue!   
    I'm certainly not trying to upset you, so i hope that such feelings are brief and non-consequential.

    You can hire a private investigator if you wish, though the cost may be prohibitive. 

    If the authorities want to contact him, they have much more clout and financial backing to do so. I would suggest that you leave this in their hands if that is the case. If they are unwilling, it is unlikely that any action would be useful.

    You should also be aware that the majority of offences under the law, either in E+W or Scotland, are offences against the crown and the state. So if he has broken numerous laws, chances are that you would not benefit from any prosecution. 

    In any case my point still stands, the only asset is the property there. and if the council is involved, they will get first dibs at any equity in that to pay off the substantial costs. 

    If you want actual advice on the actual problem, and how to best resolve it so YOU benefit, feel free to post the details. 
    All I want to know is what resources are available for me to locate him I do not wish any comments on why i am looking, what the issues are, I am already taking legal advice.  If you cannot provide any useful info on how to find him in Australia then please leave it at that and do not respond.  
    My Signature is MY OWN!!
  • davidmcn
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    edited 21 April 2020 at 1:13PM
    Comms69 said:
    So what has that post got to do with this "what I believe and what I know" are two different things, all I have asked for on this thread is help to locate the landlord.  Your contribution has not helped only upset me, I've already taken legal advice and I need to track him down as the authorities also need to contact him if you understand that you will know this is a big issue!   
    You can hire a private investigator if you wish, though the cost may be prohibitive.  
    Actually I've found tracing agents to be surprisingly cheap, assuming the subject hasn't made a huge effort not to be found and hasn't recently been on the move - I even managed to find somebody in Indonesia without costing too much. Some do it on a "no find no fee" basis.
  • Comms69
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    Comms69 said:
    So what has that post got to do with this "what I believe and what I know" are two different things, all I have asked for on this thread is help to locate the landlord.  Your contribution has not helped only upset me, I've already taken legal advice and I need to track him down as the authorities also need to contact him if you understand that you will know this is a big issue!   
    I'm certainly not trying to upset you, so i hope that such feelings are brief and non-consequential.

    You can hire a private investigator if you wish, though the cost may be prohibitive. 

    If the authorities want to contact him, they have much more clout and financial backing to do so. I would suggest that you leave this in their hands if that is the case. If they are unwilling, it is unlikely that any action would be useful.

    You should also be aware that the majority of offences under the law, either in E+W or Scotland, are offences against the crown and the state. So if he has broken numerous laws, chances are that you would not benefit from any prosecution. 

    In any case my point still stands, the only asset is the property there. and if the council is involved, they will get first dibs at any equity in that to pay off the substantial costs. 

    If you want actual advice on the actual problem, and how to best resolve it so YOU benefit, feel free to post the details. 
    All I want to know is what resources are available for me to locate him I do not wish any comments on why i am looking, what the issues are, I am already taking legal advice.  If you cannot provide any useful info on how to find him in Australia then please leave it at that and do not respond.  
    I've literally made a suggestion on how you can do it.

    If you mean, "can i do a basic search online to find him" - no. obviously not. 

    Hire an investigator. 
  • MovingForwards
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    Have you paid for a copy of the title deeds from Registers of Scotland as that will confirm if there is an outstanding mortgage and also the address he gave RoS, which may be here or somewhere else.
    Mortgage started 2020, aiming to clear 31/12/2029.
  • Scotbot
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    Hi all,
    Does anyone know if there is a 192.com equivalent for Australia, where i could find/search purchase individual voter information?


    Yes I do and no there isn't.  Check the AEC website
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