[Australia Question] - Tracking Landlord Down!

Marvel1

slenderkitten said:

Comms69 said:

slenderkitten said:

To answer some of the replies, yes i have done quite alot of diggiung, the ccouncil are having difficulty as well I've stopped paying rent to the agent, i'm not at the court stage I just need to get some contacts.  I know he's in melbourne i've found a potential work address though could be old I can see they have social media accounts but does not say a lot about whereabouts. 

Why? What do you want to achieve??

I am entitled to the information by law so i'm not sure why you are asking that, if you cannot provide assistance then thank you anyway.

Post 4 provides advice, stop paying rent (keep it aside).

slenderkitten

Marvel1 said:

slenderkitten said:

Comms69 said:

slenderkitten said:

To answer some of the replies, yes i have done quite alot of diggiung, the ccouncil are having difficulty as well I've stopped paying rent to the agent, i'm not at the court stage I just need to get some contacts.  I know he's in melbourne i've found a potential work address though could be old I can see they have social media accounts but does not say a lot about whereabouts. 

Why? What do you want to achieve??

I am entitled to the information by law so i'm not sure why you are asking that, if you cannot provide assistance then thank you anyway.

Post 4 provides advice, stop paying rent (keep it aside).

They already know i'm not paying rent they have it in writing the last one was due 3 weeks ago - no contact made to me.  They are probably trying to outwit the authorities. 

Lokolo

Lover_of_Lycra said:

Lokolo said:

Well you are not entitled to it, so no. You are entitled to an address in England and Wales, not Australia.

The OP is in Scotland.  Scottish law applies not English law.

I can't see the OP saying that... or am I missing a post somewhere?
[Edit] OK the OP had previous threads relating to Scotland. Makes more sense.

[Deleted User]

slenderkitten said:

Hi all,
Does anyone know if there is a 192.com equivalent for Australia, where i could find/search purchase individual voter information?
i'm trying to track down my landlord that lives in Australia that is refusing to give his contact information.
I need an address and telephone number, i'm hoping that there is something available, yes i know about looking on social media but no point contacting him there as they would block me so an address/telephone number is required so that legal action can be taken against him.
Any useful help is appreciated.

You've got two options.  You can write to the letting agent requesting the landlord's name and address under the Housing (Scotland) Act 1987 section 327.  The letting agent has 21 days to respond and if they fail to respond that is a criminal offence.  Alternatively, if you had the bank details of your landlord, which I'm guessing you don't since you've been paying the rent to the letting agent, you can write to the bank where you pay your rent requesting the landlord's name and address quoting the same section of the Housing (Scotland) Act 1987.  If you do this then you should address the letter to the manager of the branch which received the money. You can find out the branch address by putting the sort code into an online checker.

https://www.sortcodes.co.uk/sort-code-checker

If you were to divulge the reason you wish to take legal action against your landlord I could perhaps further assist.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1987/26/section/327

Comms69

slenderkitten said:

Marvel1 said:

slenderkitten said:

Comms69 said:

slenderkitten said:

To answer some of the replies, yes i have done quite alot of diggiung, the ccouncil are having difficulty as well I've stopped paying rent to the agent, i'm not at the court stage I just need to get some contacts.  I know he's in melbourne i've found a potential work address though could be old I can see they have social media accounts but does not say a lot about whereabouts. 

Why? What do you want to achieve??

I am entitled to the information by law so i'm not sure why you are asking that, if you cannot provide assistance then thank you anyway.

Post 4 provides advice, stop paying rent (keep it aside).

They already know i'm not paying rent they have it in writing the last one was due 3 weeks ago - no contact made to me.  They are probably trying to outwit the authorities. 

You know it's like pulling teeth. You presume a lot, provide very little and expect everyone to fill in the gaps.

Maybe they're outwitting the authorities, or maybe they just havent noticed. Or maybe theyre waiting to take you to court in a few months time. Who knows. 

The crux of the issue is the one thing you seem hesitant to share - why did you stop paying rent, what do you hope to achieve. Without this, honestly everyone is wasting their time

slenderkitten

Comms69 said:

slenderkitten said:

Comms69 said:

slenderkitten said:

To answer some of the replies, yes i have done quite alot of diggiung, the ccouncil are having difficulty as well I've stopped paying rent to the agent, i'm not at the court stage I just need to get some contacts.  I know he's in melbourne i've found a potential work address though could be old I can see they have social media accounts but does not say a lot about whereabouts. 

Why? What do you want to achieve??

I am entitled to the information by law so i'm not sure why you are asking that, if you cannot provide assistance then thank you anyway.

... because the information will be totally useless to you in any meaningful way. Unless you're planning on surprising your landlord by an impromptu trip down under, the address ins Australia has zero use to you. 

You say you're not at court stage yet. But Australia is a different court system to the UK (and that in itself varies from E+W, S, and NI). Serving 'notice' there would be at best a grey area; and strictly speaking not valid unless you meet the requirements laid out: https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part06/pd_part06b

Now if you have an actual issue, that's what people here can help with.

It has nothing to do with Australia law as the property is in Scotland, Scotland now has a service by an advertisement for those that do not have landlord details so there is a way for me to take action but before i do that i want to track him down.   

Again i am looking for information on some sort of voter roll that i could access in Australia, as per my original question. 

slenderkitten

Comms69 said:

slenderkitten said:

Marvel1 said:

slenderkitten said:

Comms69 said:

slenderkitten said:

To answer some of the replies, yes i have done quite alot of diggiung, the ccouncil are having difficulty as well I've stopped paying rent to the agent, i'm not at the court stage I just need to get some contacts.  I know he's in melbourne i've found a potential work address though could be old I can see they have social media accounts but does not say a lot about whereabouts. 

Why? What do you want to achieve??

I am entitled to the information by law so i'm not sure why you are asking that, if you cannot provide assistance then thank you anyway.

Post 4 provides advice, stop paying rent (keep it aside).

They already know i'm not paying rent they have it in writing the last one was due 3 weeks ago - no contact made to me.  They are probably trying to outwit the authorities. 

You know it's like pulling teeth. You presume a lot, provide very little and expect everyone to fill in the gaps.

Maybe they're outwitting the authorities, or maybe they just havent noticed. Or maybe theyre waiting to take you to court in a few months time. Who knows. 

The crux of the issue is the one thing you seem hesitant to share - why did you stop paying rent, what do you hope to achieve. Without this, honestly everyone is wasting their time

I don't need to disclose anything further I've already told you why I need the information in my original post, and someone else confirmed where I live which underlines that I am legally entitled to know the information.  I've not come here to ask for advice just to find out if there is a way to locate voter roll info in Australia, as there are other authorities that are looking for him too. 

AdrianC

Comms69 said:

slenderkitten said:

Comms69 said:

slenderkitten said:

To answer some of the replies, yes i have done quite alot of diggiung, the ccouncil are having difficulty as well I've stopped paying rent to the agent, i'm not at the court stage I just need to get some contacts.  I know he's in melbourne i've found a potential work address though could be old I can see they have social media accounts but does not say a lot about whereabouts. 

Why? What do you want to achieve??

I am entitled to the information by law so i'm not sure why you are asking that, if you cannot provide assistance then thank you anyway.

... because the information will be totally useless to you in any meaningful way. Unless you're planning on surprising your landlord by an impromptu trip down under, the address ins Australia has zero use to you. 
...
Now if you have an actual issue, that's what people here can help with.

@slenderkitten
You really ought to take note of what Comms69 says here. It's important.

Let's say that you find out that the landlord's home address is 47 Ramsay St, Melbourne, and their phone number is +61 <whatever>.

Then what?
You write to him? He ignores it.
You phone him? He hangs up on you.
And...?

You can't launch a small claim in a UK court against an Australian resident at an Australian address. It will be prohibitively expensive and impractical for you to launch a claim in an Austrlian court.

So what do you actually NEED this address for? Just to give you a warm glow that you've got it? You say "...other authorities are looking for him..." - right, and? You can pass it on, but they can't/won't do anything with it, either. They're just as capable of getting it as you are, if not more so. If it'd help them. Which it won't - unless these "other authorities" are the police for a crime so serious as to warrant extradition...

Comms69

slenderkitten said:

Comms69 said:

slenderkitten said:

Comms69 said:

slenderkitten said:

To answer some of the replies, yes i have done quite alot of diggiung, the ccouncil are having difficulty as well I've stopped paying rent to the agent, i'm not at the court stage I just need to get some contacts.  I know he's in melbourne i've found a potential work address though could be old I can see they have social media accounts but does not say a lot about whereabouts. 

Why? What do you want to achieve??

I am entitled to the information by law so i'm not sure why you are asking that, if you cannot provide assistance then thank you anyway.

... because the information will be totally useless to you in any meaningful way. Unless you're planning on surprising your landlord by an impromptu trip down under, the address ins Australia has zero use to you. 

You say you're not at court stage yet. But Australia is a different court system to the UK (and that in itself varies from E+W, S, and NI). Serving 'notice' there would be at best a grey area; and strictly speaking not valid unless you meet the requirements laid out: https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part06/pd_part06b

Now if you have an actual issue, that's what people here can help with.

It has nothing to do with Australia law as the property is in Scotland, Scotland now has a service by an advertisement for those that do not have landlord details so there is a way for me to take action but before i do that i want to track him down.   

Again i am looking for information on some sort of voter roll that i could access in Australia, as per my original question. 

If you intend to serve notice on someone in a foreign jurisdiction, then the local law very much does apply! Enforcing a court order overseas is especially difficult - and given that's where the landlord is, that's what you'll be doing (especially since you hinted that the property is in negative equity and therefore nothing for you to claim against). 

But clearly you know more than me about the legal process, so i'll bow out. 

Best i could find (ok the first result on google which took less time than typing this sentence) https://www.nla.gov.au/research-guides/australian-electoral-rolls

[Deleted User]

I'm not sure how you would access the Australian voter register online.  I know that every citizen over 18 has to vote but if your landlord isn't a citizen then he won't be on there anyway.  There's the Australian White Pages but I've never used it myself.