County Court claim letter

go-on-then

I doubt there is anything to be gained by going back to the carpark, the signs have changed, you dont have time by the sounds of it anyway.
I have given you several points to work with previously.
I think you need to stop panicking and concentrate on the main facts to put in your ws, it doesnt have to be War and Peace, each one  is different.
You havn't shown the pcn but I know it wont be POFA compliant so they have to prove who was driving for a start.

Redx

If the signs are not with their WS , then you say so and put them to strict proof , given that the proof is missing from their bundle

If the signs are in the bundle , you already have them

go-on-then

Look on street view for the location and look at signage at both entrances to the car park. Off the top of my head I think you can go to July 2018.
Is there signage for  'no return within 90 minutes '  ?    No.    Use those pictures / print them off or whatever,  with a date on.  
Any changes and approvals to signage will have to be shown/ proved by ES.

There was a local newspaper article in Jan 2019 ,  just one of many,  highlighting the problems with the signage at the carpark.  4 local councillors were caught out with the no return thing so signage is / was a major thing. 

Nathanb

go-on-then said:

Look on street view for the location and look at signage at both entrances to the car park. Off the top of my head I think you can go to July 2018.
Is there signage for  'no return within 90 minutes '  ?    No.    Use those pictures / print them off or whatever,  with a date on.  
Any changes and approvals to signage will have to be shown/ proved by ES.

There was a local newspaper article in Jan 2019 ,  just one of many,  highlighting the problems with the signage at the carpark.  4 local councillors were caught out with the no return thing so signage is / was a major thing. 

Massive thank you. I have got some good pictures off google maps and it just says 3 hours free parking. The driver of the  vehicle wont of been aware of no return within 90 minutes as this should displayed on entrance to the car park. With the driver not being aware the vehicle in question has entered the car park completely unaware of no return in 90 minutes. Is this called entrapment? 

Does it matter if you can see that its from google maps on the pictures?

Umkomaas

Nathanb said:

go-on-then said:

Look on street view for the location and look at signage at both entrances to the car park. Off the top of my head I think you can go to July 2018.
Is there signage for  'no return within 90 minutes '  ?    No.    Use those pictures / print them off or whatever,  with a date on.  
Any changes and approvals to signage will have to be shown/ proved by ES.

There was a local newspaper article in Jan 2019 ,  just one of many,  highlighting the problems with the signage at the carpark.  4 local councillors were caught out with the no return thing so signage is / was a major thing. 

Massive thank you. I have got some good pictures off google maps and it just says 3 hours free parking. The driver of the  vehicle wont of been aware of no return within 90 minutes as this should displayed on entrance to the car park. With the driver not being aware the vehicle in question has entered the car park completely unaware of no return in 90 minutes. Is this called entrapment? 

Does it matter if you can see that its from google maps on the pictures?

Why would we advise if it did?

Nathanb

fair enough. The newspaper article as well do I need to cut out all the advertisements when I look online as well. Normal ones doesnt matter but I have ones of women in underwear just think it looks a bit unprofessional but unsure how to cut it out without chopping down the article as surely its better if I show the entirety of it rather than snippets.

Were_Doomed

Edit the photo in Paint or similar and simply put filled rectangles over the adverts. (Save a copy of the photo before you start editing in case you need to do it again).

Note that the article is merely anecdotal evidence / circumstantial ... but it helps to support your claim that the No Return clause was not clearly highlighted to the motorist.

go-on-then

The terms and conditions signage (  if a visitor can find them )  is in the car park,   not clearly on view at the entrance.   If they have already been into the carpark once , they have to go back in to find and read those terms and conditions,  that's when they get trapped. 

Nathanb

Im including all these pictures from google and articles can these be included in my witness statement? in my witness statement ill be discussing what they have said in there bundle.

Le_Kirk

Nathanb said:

Im including all these pictures from google and articles can these be included in my witness statement? in my witness statement ill be discussing what they have said in their there bundle.

Yes, you can, as that constitutes evidence.  You can refute any statement in their WS that is incorrect and use anything that goes in your favour.