Will you comply?

Wednesday2000

skogar said:

My concern now is how do I support them with the other aspects of self isolation, particularly OH's parents who do not use computers.

OH's Mum reads avidly and loves going to the library. The obvious solution would be an ebook reader so she could borrow ebooks from the library but she would not be able to load them on. Does anyone have any alternative ideas about this or any ideas to make the isolation sightly less tedious or other interesting ways of maintaining contact rather than just regular phone calls. Any advice would be much appreciated.

Do you have an ebook reader yourself? Could you ask her what books she wants to read and then put them on your ebook reader and then give it to her /post it through the door?

Or buy her one? I don't know how much they cost. I have a kindle.

joedenise

maman said:

I'm trying hard to comply with social distancing but there does seem to be a lot of of confusion and many mixed messages. Many people are implying that social distancing and social isolation are synonymous. They're not. I'm social distancing so I'm going out every day for a walk or for a drive and a walk. I'm doing this for fresh air and exercise. We've seen people while we're out and called a cheery greeting... from a distance. We're also going out weekly for food shopping. Tomorrow I plan to see my DD for a brief visit. We'll sit opposite each other on our sofas (2m apart). I really can't see how seeing my DD or meeting a friend in the open air (as I did yesterday by accident when I was doing my food shop locally ) is any different from coming into contact (not literally) with the checkout person in the supermarket. 
Unless government guidelines change and we're all required to socially isolate (and provision is made for food deliveries) then that's how I'm translating social distancing. 

I agree.  That's how I see it.  We saw our DD today for a short visit - we went through her house to the garden and she came just outside her door - it's really weird having to be so far apart while you're chatting but at least it means we could see her.

We're also going out for a walk and also doing a bit of shopping - think we're probably OK for a couple of weeks and bought enough meat for the month when we went to the butchers.  The only thing we couldn't get at the butchers was enough sausages so we'll only be having them once or twice this month rather each weekend as we usually do.

greenbee

joedenise said:

maman said:

I'm trying hard to comply with social distancing but there does seem to be a lot of of confusion and many mixed messages. Many people are implying that social distancing and social isolation are synonymous. They're not. I'm social distancing so I'm going out every day for a walk or for a drive and a walk. I'm doing this for fresh air and exercise. We've seen people while we're out and called a cheery greeting... from a distance. We're also going out weekly for food shopping. Tomorrow I plan to see my DD for a brief visit. We'll sit opposite each other on our sofas (2m apart). I really can't see how seeing my DD or meeting a friend in the open air (as I did yesterday by accident when I was doing my food shop locally ) is any different from coming into contact (not literally) with the checkout person in the supermarket. 
Unless government guidelines change and we're all required to socially isolate (and provision is made for food deliveries) then that's how I'm translating social distancing. 

I agree.  That's how I see it.  We saw our DD today for a short visit - we went through her house to the garden and she came just outside her door - it's really weird having to be so far apart while you're chatting but at least it means we could see her.

We're also going out for a walk and also doing a bit of shopping - think we're probably OK for a couple of weeks and bought enough meat for the month when we went to the butchers.  The only thing we couldn't get at the butchers was enough sausages so we'll only be having them once or twice this month rather each weekend as we usually do.

Even social isolation allows you out for exercise as long as you stay 2m away from anyone (I wish people who weren't isolating would think about this!). But you can't go into people's houses (even if you are 2m away from them) or go shopping. I need to get this temperature gone and make it another week or so without social contact so I can go to see my mum knowing there is no risk of infecting her.

maman

Thanks denise. I've just been listening to Amir Khan (from GPs behind Closed Doors) and he recommended that even in social isolation it's a good idea, for mental health as well as other reasons, to get out in open spaces. 

joedenise

greenbee said:

joedenise said:

maman said:

I'm trying hard to comply with social distancing but there does seem to be a lot of of confusion and many mixed messages. Many people are implying that social distancing and social isolation are synonymous. They're not. I'm social distancing so I'm going out every day for a walk or for a drive and a walk. I'm doing this for fresh air and exercise. We've seen people while we're out and called a cheery greeting... from a distance. We're also going out weekly for food shopping. Tomorrow I plan to see my DD for a brief visit. We'll sit opposite each other on our sofas (2m apart). I really can't see how seeing my DD or meeting a friend in the open air (as I did yesterday by accident when I was doing my food shop locally ) is any different from coming into contact (not literally) with the checkout person in the supermarket. 
Unless government guidelines change and we're all required to socially isolate (and provision is made for food deliveries) then that's how I'm translating social distancing. 

I agree.  That's how I see it.  We saw our DD today for a short visit - we went through her house to the garden and she came just outside her door - it's really weird having to be so far apart while you're chatting but at least it means we could see her.

We're also going out for a walk and also doing a bit of shopping - think we're probably OK for a couple of weeks and bought enough meat for the month when we went to the butchers.  The only thing we couldn't get at the butchers was enough sausages so we'll only be having them once or twice this month rather each weekend as we usually do.

Even social isolation allows you out for exercise as long as you stay 2m away from anyone (I wish people who weren't isolating would think about this!). But you can't go into people's houses (even if you are 2m away from them) or go shopping. I need to get this temperature gone and make it another week or so without social contact so I can go to see my mum knowing there is no risk of infecting her.

Can't see why I shouldn't go into my DD's garden.  When I went through to her garden she was in her living room with the door closed - we did not get within 2 m of each other!

PS. No idea why it's quoted all those posts rather than just the final one.

tboo

@joedenise.if you want to just quote 1 post then you delete the others by going into its own box - not able to explain it any better soz

greenbee

joedenise said:

greenbee said:

joedenise said:

maman said:

I'm trying hard to comply with social distancing but there does seem to be a lot of of confusion and many mixed messages. Many people are implying that social distancing and social isolation are synonymous. They're not. I'm social distancing so I'm going out every day for a walk or for a drive and a walk. I'm doing this for fresh air and exercise. We've seen people while we're out and called a cheery greeting... from a distance. We're also going out weekly for food shopping. Tomorrow I plan to see my DD for a brief visit. We'll sit opposite each other on our sofas (2m apart). I really can't see how seeing my DD or meeting a friend in the open air (as I did yesterday by accident when I was doing my food shop locally ) is any different from coming into contact (not literally) with the checkout person in the supermarket. 
Unless government guidelines change and we're all required to socially isolate (and provision is made for food deliveries) then that's how I'm translating social distancing. 

I agree.  That's how I see it.  We saw our DD today for a short visit - we went through her house to the garden and she came just outside her door - it's really weird having to be so far apart while you're chatting but at least it means we could see her.

We're also going out for a walk and also doing a bit of shopping - think we're probably OK for a couple of weeks and bought enough meat for the month when we went to the butchers.  The only thing we couldn't get at the butchers was enough sausages so we'll only be having them once or twice this month rather each weekend as we usually do.

Even social isolation allows you out for exercise as long as you stay 2m away from anyone (I wish people who weren't isolating would think about this!). But you can't go into people's houses (even if you are 2m away from them) or go shopping. I need to get this temperature gone and make it another week or so without social contact so I can go to see my mum knowing there is no risk of infecting her.

Can't see why I shouldn't go into my DD's garden.  When I went through to her garden she was in her living room with the door closed - we did not get within 2 m of each other!

PS. No idea why it's quoted all those posts rather than just the final one.

It doesn't say you can't go into her garden. If you're keeping well away from each other that's fine. Indoors is more of a problem because of air circulation - the virus is thought to live longer inside where air currents don't disperse it.

maman

Can't see why I shouldn't go into my DD's garden.  When I went through to her garden she was in her living room with the door closed - we did not get within 2 m of each other!

PS. No idea why it's quoted all those posts rather than just the final one.

I just deleted all the posts other than the one I wanted from denise. But what a faff. Migration to this chaotic new platform has come at just the wrong time when people need to stay in touch. I really feel for some of the elderly people who've been 'excluded' from the site just when they needed it most.

From what the medical people are telling us, the virus (any virus? ) is passed on by droplets in the air (where you'd need to be within 2m for it to reach you) from coughs and sneezes or touching surfaces that have been coughed/sneezed on. It's not logical to suggest you could contract the virus just by walking into a house. If this was the case then we would be in total lock down and wouldn't be allowed to go into supermarkets or pharmacies. 

Pyxis

Although supermarkets are now stepping up their attempts to let the old and the vulnerable have proper dedicated shopping times, and that is laudable, how does this now fit in with the old and the vulnerable being asked to stay at home for their own protection?

Skibunny40

Supermarkets are working on a way to prioritse online deliveries to elderly, vulnerable and key workers ( according to an email I got from Sainsburys this morning) - not easy, but I'm glad they're trying although the obvious flaw is the fact many elderly won/t have access to online ordering.