ZZPS Debt Recovery Letter

Redx

ImranU95 said:

SAR sent to the parking firm. Now I will return the letter they sent asking for a breakdown of the £182. However, when filling the form out, do I select the box that states “I owe some of the debt, but not all of it” or “I dispute the debt” and then ask for a breakdown?

You do not fill any forms in , just compose a reply and send it , same as others do in Gladstone's and b w legal and dcbl legal threads.  It's no different

You are not sending their letters back , you are replying with a letter of your own

Coupon-mad

Why have not enough people done this, as well?

CALLING ALL NEWBIES!

Please now make a real difference because not enough people have yet, and time is running out.

An urgent task – deadline approaching in about ten days:

The Government is consulting for just a few more days, about a new statutory code of practice (CoP) and framework to rein in the rogue parking firms.  Read and comment on the draft CoP proposal and the enforcement framework consultation, and get everyone you know to do the same.

You will need to register then log in, to comment on the CoP and enter an occupation even if you are retired or a homemaker.  Submit comments as soon as you are happy with them.

https://standardsdevelopment.bsigroup.com/projects/2020-00193#/section

You do not need to register to comment on the enforcement framework which can be found here. It has a link on page 5 to make comments.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/913272/Code_Enforcement_Framework_consultation.pdf

HOW TO DO THE SUBMISSIONS:

1. Read the cover letter

2. Read the cover letter again and note the suggested extra questions...and if you agree that, say, the 'loading/unloading and dropping off, asking for directions, and disabled people parking on double yellows as they can on street' activities listed should be exempt (not parking events, what do you think?) then please go to the Annexes at the end of the PAS Code and find the one about Exempt Vehicles and state what other activity you think should be added to the exempt list.  

 

If you do nothing else, please comment on:

- the amount of the parking charge levels

- the annexes at the end of the PAS (reading through the whole thing takes hours so if you have nothing to say about the definitions, for example, then skip to more vital points and the annex tables at the end.

- the bit about debt collectors and whether you think PPCs should be allowed to add 'costs' a second time, for the letters that are already within the rationale of the 'parking charge' sum...hmmm...

Responses into the PAS 232 and MHCLG framework documents are not completely straightforward:

On the MHCLG response, you have to answer the questions on a 1-5 scale from strongly agree to strongly disagree, and then put some commentary. No way to upload documents or alternatives but this doesn't take long.

 

 On the PAS 232, you have to click on each clause and sub-clause to put your comments, and a suggested rewording of their draft.  You can see comments which other people have written!   But, when you click ‘submit’, a message pops up to say your comments have been received, but that only applies to the particular clause you have just addressed.  

You have to go back up and find the next section, then the next...

You have to click ‘submit’ separately for each individual clause response.  Some people will be caught out by this but can revisit it and add further responses up to 12 October.

 

Things to think about:

A Speeding fine is £100.  A Local Authority lower rate parking penalty is £50.  Which do you think a private PCN should be like or do you think it should be something different?  

Do you think if all payment methods are not functioning that PPC can 'fine' you?

 

Do you think the examples mentioned in the cover letter are right and need adding to the Annex?

 

etc. etc.

 

 

ImranU95

Hi, I received this letter back from CEL on the back of my SAR but it states on the letter the PCN is now cancelled. However, they have sent me the information I requested? Does it mean it has been cancelled and I don’t need to worry about this anymore?

D_P_Dance

Does it mean it has been cancelled and I don’t need to worry about this anymore?

Yes.  They have wasted your time, now consider wasting some of theirs, read this.  

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-courts/legal-system/small-claims/making-a-small-claim/

beamerguy

Typical CEL, IT'S OVER FOR YOU

CEL should bring in a professional management company to teach them how they can stop wasting their time and money

Redx

Good , Now you can concentrate on filling the government surveys in , to improve the sc@m industry

D_P_Dance

beamerguy said:

Typical CEL, IT'S OVER FOR YOU

CEL should bring in a professional management company to teach them how they can stop wasting their time and money

All they need do is read this forum.

ImranU95

Thanks so much for all your help guys! I wouldn’t have known what to do otherwise!

Le_Kirk

ImranU95 said:

Thanks so much for all your help guys! I wouldn’t have known what to do otherwise!

Redx said:

Good , Now you can concentrate on filling the government surveys in , to improve the sc@m industry

..... and when you have done it (might take a couple of hours) come back and tell us please.  BTW great news on getting the PC cancelled.