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Court Claim form from VCS

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  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    edited 17 February 2020 at 11:18PM
    chris0147 said:

    Can you guys please help me with what I need to input when I fill on the form as I am not sure what to say?

    Please re-read the posts that both you and I made on this thread on 11th February.
    That's only last Tuesday - surely you haven't forgotten it already?

    I have absolutely no idea why you are even considering filling out that form.
  • KeithP said:
    chris0147 said:

    Can you guys please help me with what I need to input when I fill on the form as I am not sure what to say?

    Please re-read the posts that both you and I made on this thread on 11th February.
    That's only last Tuesday - surely you haven't forgotten it already?

    I have absolutely no idea why you are even considering filling out that form.
    I have re-read it but there is nothing to say about how to fill on the form when I want to defence. What I am trying to do is filling out on that form but I am not sure what to write. I need to do this before 3rd March. Please re-read my post, there is no need to tell me what I need to do.

    I know all about print it, sign it, date it, scan it and save it as PDF when I am ready to send it to court, but my problem is I need to fill on the form but not sure what to write.

    It say "Please state your defence in a maximum of 122 lines in the box below."
    This is what I am going to put on the form:
    "I am disputed this because the fined me was unlawful, they have got no proof of loss, I have no contract with the company so there is no loss.  This is why I am disputed this."

    Do I need to put that or leave it as empty? or what?
    Please help me.
  • KeithP
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    edited 17 February 2020 at 11:47PM
    Quite simply... you do not fill in that form.
    Forget about any form.

    You write a Defence like thousands have before you.

    Please look at the example Defences in the second post of the NEWBIES thread. There are sixteen examples linked from there I believe. There's a link to that thread in the first reply on this thread.

    As it says in that first reply, print out you Defence and sign it.

    This very evening several people have posted up their Defences for review. Look around. See what others are doing.

    Show us your draft Defence when you are ready. You still have two weeks - no need to panic yet, but it is good to see that you are not leaving things but are getting on with it.
  • KeithP said:
    Quite simply... you do not fill in that form.
    Forget about any form.

    You write a Defence like thousands have before you.

    Please look at the example Defences in the second post of the NEWBIES thread. There are sixteen examples linked from there I believe. There's a link to that thread in the first reply on this thread.

    As it says in that first reply, print out you Defence and sign it.

    This very evening several people have posted up their Defences for review. Look around. See what others are doing.

    Show us your draft Defence when you are ready. You still have two weeks - no need to panic yet, but it is good to see that you are not leaving things but are getting on with it.
    I dont understand what you mean by write a Defence. If you could send me the link so I will take a quick look.
    I am sorry but I don't have it. What I have already done so far is I have submitted for AOS service and I have already wrote a letter to the company to request for CPR to proof of loss, who was the driver....etc.
    I haven't  done the Defence so I have attached the picture for you to take a look. 
    Please let me know if I need to do this.


  • chris0147
    chris0147 Posts: 357 Forumite
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    edited 18 February 2020 at 12:07AM
    This is what I sent to the company:

    Date: 14/02/2020

     Dear Sir or Madam,

     Re: Simon Renshaw-Smith v Chris XXXXXXX Case No: XXXXXXXX

    CPR 31.14 Request

     On 1/02/2020 I received the Claim Form in this case issued by you out of the Northampton county court.

     I confirm having returned my acknowledgement of service to the court in which I indicate my intention to contest all of your claim.

    Please treat this letter as my request made under CPR 31.14 for the disclosure and the production of a verified and legible copy of [each of the following / the] document(s) mentioned in your Particulars of Claim:

     1. The contract between Vehicle Control Services and the landowner that assigns the right to enter into contracts with the public and make claims in their own name.

    2. Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and Country Planning Act 2007

    3. Copies of the notice to driver, notice to keeper and any other correspondence from Simon Renshaw-Smith/VCS to the defendant that they intend to rely upon in court.

    You should ensure compliance with your CPR 31 duties and ensure that the document(s) I have requested are disclosed at your earliest convenience.

    Your CPR 31 duties extend to making a reasonable and proportionate search for the originals documents I have requested, you must be able to verify the document's authenticity and to provide me with a legible copy.

    Further, where I have requested a copy of a document, the original of which is now in the possession of another person, you will have a right to possession of that document if you have mentioned it in your case. You must take immediate steps to recover and preserve it for the purpose of this case.

    Where I have mentioned a document and there is in your possession more than one version of that same document owing to a modification, obliteration or other marking or feature, each version will be a separate document and you must provide a copy of each version of it to me. Your obligations extend to making a reasonable and proportionate search for any version(s) to include an obligation to recover and preserve such version(s) which are now in the possession of a third party.

     In accordance with CPR 31.15© I undertake to be responsible for your reasonable copying costs incurred in complying with this CPR 31.14 request.

     If you are unable to comply with this request within 14 days and believe that you will never be able to comply with this request please confirm in your response.

     You are reminded that as this case is yet to be allocated to a track, CPR31:14 does apply, a refusal to comply because you 'think' at this stage you don't have to comply will be referred against you in any defence.

    Yours faithfully,

    Chris XXXXXXX

     


  • KeithP
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    Do nothing on MCOL... absolutely nothing. You have now finished with MCOL except for maybe checking the status of the Claim.

    There is a link to the NEWBIES thread twice in the first reply on this thread - in the post I wrote on 3rd February just six minutes after you started this thread.
  • KeithP said:
    Do nothing on MCOL... absolutely nothing. You have now finished with MCOL except for maybe checking the status of the Claim.

    There is a link to the NEWBIES thread twice in the first reply on this thread - in the post I wrote on 3rd February just six minutes after you started this thread.
    Why I need to do nothing on MCOL?
    I thought you said in your first post that I need to file a defence before the 3rd March.
    I dont know what you expect me to do to look around when I need some help with fill on the form on MCOL to Defence? 
    As you know I have already done AOS and I sent the letter to the company but I haven't done the Defence. Did you see the screenshot that I have attached?
    I need to do this asap to dispute the claim so I wont get CCJ.
  • KeithP
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    Sorry, I give up. I'll have to leave it to someone else.
  • KeithP said:
    Sorry, I give up. I'll have to leave it to someone else.
    You are confused me as I have got no clue what to do.
    You are just lazy and you ain't bother to help me to do a Defence.
    Shame on you!!
  • KeithP
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    chris0147 said:
    KeithP said:
    Sorry, I give up. I'll have to leave it to someone else.
    You are confused me as I have got no clue what to do.
    You are just lazy and you ain't bother to help me to do a Defence.
    Shame on you!!
    That's right. You've sussed me. Good luck.
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