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YoungBlueEyes

Well when the kids have flown the nest you gotta fill the second bedroom somehow, I guess…

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/131984537#/?channel=RES_BUY

ProDave

YoungBlueEyes said:

Well when the kids have flown the nest you gotta fill the second bedroom somehow, I guess…

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/131984537#/?channel=RES_BUY

Looks like the kids are still there, just grown up a bit.

markin

Als156 said:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/73054537#/?channel=RES_BUY

Anyone want a castle? Dying to turn that garden into a maze....

Added in 2016, Wonder if the art is real and pricey.

SadieO

lincroft1710 said:

SadieO said:

A grand a month to live in someone's shed, anyone? I'd say "that should be illegal" but if it doesn't have permission to be used as a residence then it may well already be... 

The listing has now been removed by the agent

It's been relisted with another agent. I wonder if the first one dropped it out of shame?! The new agents have conveniently forgotten to add pictures of the outside that shows it's a shed. It's really no wonder sometimes that landlords and letting/estate agents get a bad name. (I know they're not all bad! But these ones are!)

YoungBlueEyes

Wow. So I'm guessing it's not actually illegal then...  

lincroft1710

SadieO said:

lincroft1710 said:

SadieO said:

A grand a month to live in someone's shed, anyone? I'd say "that should be illegal" but if it doesn't have permission to be used as a residence then it may well already be... 

The listing has now been removed by the agent

It's been relisted with another agent. I wonder if the first one dropped it out of shame?! The new agents have conveniently forgotten to add pictures of the outside that shows it's a shed. It's really no wonder sometimes that landlords and letting/estate agents get a bad name. (I know they're not all bad! But these ones are!)

And gives you no information about the accom apart from 4 photos. Also council tax should not be included in the rent, it's the tenant's responsibility

Dandie89

markin said:

Als156 said:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/73054537#/?channel=RES_BUY

Anyone want a castle? Dying to turn that garden into a maze....

Added in 2016, Wonder if the art is real and pricey.

The Skating Minister is definately not the original.

Ditzy_Mitzy

lincroft1710 said:

SadieO said:

lincroft1710 said:

SadieO said:

A grand a month to live in someone's shed, anyone? I'd say "that should be illegal" but if it doesn't have permission to be used as a residence then it may well already be... 

The listing has now been removed by the agent

It's been relisted with another agent. I wonder if the first one dropped it out of shame?! The new agents have conveniently forgotten to add pictures of the outside that shows it's a shed. It's really no wonder sometimes that landlords and letting/estate agents get a bad name. (I know they're not all bad! But these ones are!)

And gives you no information about the accom apart from 4 photos. Also council tax should not be included in the rent, it's the tenant's responsibility

Council tax.  I'm sure it is the tenant's responsibility, in theory, but that would be reliant on the annex having planning permission to exist as a separate dwelling, the garden and building being put on a new title with the Land Registry, sign-off from building control, a new address being assigned and so on.  Has that happened?  Dream on, as Aerosmith once sang...  

What the authorities don't know can't hurt them, so it's probably easier if the landlord swallows the council tax and stays schtum.  

lincroft1710

Ditzy_Mitzy said:

lincroft1710 said:

SadieO said:

lincroft1710 said:

SadieO said:

A grand a month to live in someone's shed, anyone? I'd say "that should be illegal" but if it doesn't have permission to be used as a residence then it may well already be... 

The listing has now been removed by the agent

It's been relisted with another agent. I wonder if the first one dropped it out of shame?! The new agents have conveniently forgotten to add pictures of the outside that shows it's a shed. It's really no wonder sometimes that landlords and letting/estate agents get a bad name. (I know they're not all bad! But these ones are!)

And gives you no information about the accom apart from 4 photos. Also council tax should not be included in the rent, it's the tenant's responsibility

Council tax.  I'm sure it is the tenant's responsibility, in theory, but that would be reliant on the annex having planning permission to exist as a separate dwelling, the garden and building being put on a new title with the Land Registry, sign-off from building control, a new address being assigned and so on.  Has that happened?  Dream on, as Aerosmith once sang...  

What the authorities don't know can't hurt them, so it's probably easier if the landlord swallows the council tax and stays schtum.  

Sorry but you are incorrect


There is no need for pp for a separate dwelling for that dwelling to have its own CT band. I'm ex VOA and have dealt with many annexes. In most annex cases the pp did not allow the annex to be sold separately from the main house, but the annex was still correctly given its own CT band. In fact annexes no longer have to be completely self contained to be given their own band. Unusually there are 2 separate pieces of CT legislation  which allow an annex to have its own CT band


I think you are the one who will have to "Dream On"

Ditzy_Mitzy

lincroft1710 said:

Ditzy_Mitzy said:

lincroft1710 said:

SadieO said:

lincroft1710 said:

SadieO said:

A grand a month to live in someone's shed, anyone? I'd say "that should be illegal" but if it doesn't have permission to be used as a residence then it may well already be... 

The listing has now been removed by the agent

It's been relisted with another agent. I wonder if the first one dropped it out of shame?! The new agents have conveniently forgotten to add pictures of the outside that shows it's a shed. It's really no wonder sometimes that landlords and letting/estate agents get a bad name. (I know they're not all bad! But these ones are!)

And gives you no information about the accom apart from 4 photos. Also council tax should not be included in the rent, it's the tenant's responsibility

Council tax.  I'm sure it is the tenant's responsibility, in theory, but that would be reliant on the annex having planning permission to exist as a separate dwelling, the garden and building being put on a new title with the Land Registry, sign-off from building control, a new address being assigned and so on.  Has that happened?  Dream on, as Aerosmith once sang...  

What the authorities don't know can't hurt them, so it's probably easier if the landlord swallows the council tax and stays schtum.  

Sorry but you are incorrect


There is no need for pp for a separate dwelling for that dwelling to have its own CT band. I'm ex VOA and have dealt with many annexes. In most annex cases the pp did not allow the annex to be sold separately from the main house, but the annex was still correctly given its own CT band. In fact annexes no longer have to be completely self contained to be given their own band. Unusually there are 2 separate pieces of CT legislation  which allow an annex to have its own CT band


I think you are the one who will have to "Dream On"

An annexe can have a separate council tax banding, but that relies on the structure meeting the definition of an 'annexe'.  The listing being discussed is a separate building with independent access and facilities, offered to let on the open market on an AST.  There is no suggestion that it will be occupied by a family member of the householder of the main property, nor that the tenant will have any access to the house proper.  As such it is functioning as a separate dwelling and, as you say, ought to be paying council tax as a separate dwelling.  The fact that it isn't indicates the authority haven't been appraised of what is actually going on there.  To my mind it fails to fulfil various criteria applicable to an annexe or granny flat.   

The other option, of course, is for the landlord to declare the tenant as a 'lodger', again dubious but people do it.  A lodger wouldn't pay council tax.