Can I be forced to have a smart meter?

TimeLord1

MattMattMattUK said:

Dumb mode is the brain mode for those who believe conspiracy theories and try to block having a smart meter installed, nothing more.

If you see the last link I posted, they clearly use it as a defunct meter not transmitting data
(dumb mode)  But there the mention Citizen Advice is still mentioned today as having information on its page that you can ask for it's smart mode to be switched off. I don't think they like people being able to see it or believe they have an option.  Below is that suggestion. 

TimeLord1

@powerful_Rogue As I said' earlier a complete message was deleted and context
Hopefully this you can see this one, if not I guess I've upset whoever runs this section. Dunno I will find out.

t0rt0ise

It doesn't say anything here about being able to ask the meter to be made dumb. It simply says you can have half hourly readings or daily readings. 

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/getting-smart-meter

TimeLord1

Who is in charge of this energy section? Does anyone know, or can you reply if you're running it? Anyway, what I want an answer to is links and images. What's allowed and not allowed because clearly I received a warning ⚠️ on trying to post  messages. 

 You can DM me if you don't want to be known or restrict certain information but in my opinion it wasn't political or false. Cheers!

TimeLord1

t0rt0ise said:

It doesn't say anything here about being able to ask for the meter to be made dumb. It simply says you can have half hourly readings or daily readings. 

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/getting-smart-meter

What that site seems to do is have offshoots leaving sections, and you have to read and open so many things it gets tedious trying to find a title that is linked to the information. 

TimeLord1

@t0rt0ise
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• Suppliers are receiving an increasing number of requests from Consumers to have Smart 

Meters installed in ‘dumb’ mode

Near the top 

https://smartenergycodecompany.co.uk/documents/sec/mp169-working-group-meeting-summary-february-2024/

TimeLord1

Can I also add, I currently have gas, electric, and water smart meters and I'm not opposed to it, just my opinion on them. Even though I think it shouldn't be forced on anyone causing them stress and worry.

QrizB

TimeLord1 said:

Who is in charge of this energy section? 

If you receive an official warning by DM, the DM includes contact details for the forum admins.

If you received a warning by some other route, it's a new one on me!

QrizB

TimeLord1 said:

@t0rt0ise
.ue

• Suppliers are receiving an increasing number of requests from Consumers to have Smart 

Meters installed in ‘dumb’ mode

Near the top 

https://smartenergycodecompany.co.uk/documents/sec/mp169-working-group-meeting-summary-february-2024/

That particular set of meeting minutes is illuminating. Thank you for digging them out.

It  appears to confirmsm that, as of February 2024, there was no entitlement to have a smart meter installed in "dumb mode" and the advice from CAB to the contrary was incorrect, with CAB accepting that it was incorrect but not wanting to acknowledge that smart meters were de facto mandatory.

The committee also noted that Ombudsman decisions that instructed suppliers to install dumb mode meters were contrary to Ofgem policy.

The committee were asking Ofgem to change their policy. Do we know the outcome from their request?

TimeLord1

QrizB said:

TimeLord1 said:

Who is in charge of this energy section? 

If you receive an official warning by DM, the DM includes contact details for the forum admins.

If you received a warning by some other route, it's a new one on me!

Was a warning banner and a long winded email about legislation. I've also received DM warnings in the past about context that I can send.

But without someone explaining it, it's the blind leading the blind.