Can I be forced to have a smart meter?

TimeLord1

QrizB said:

TimeLord1 said:

t0rt0ise said:

TimeLord1 said:

@t0rt0ise
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• Suppliers are receiving an increasing number of requests from Consumers to have Smart 

Meters installed in ‘dumb’ mode

Near the top 

https://smartenergycodecompany.co.uk/documents/sec/mp169-working-group-meeting-summary-february-2024/

It would be nice to see something a bit more recent. The below is interesting, found in the FAQs.

"Smart metering will bring significant benefits to consumers and the wider energy system. Government expects energy suppliers to have processes in place to respond to concerns about smart metering, including providing information that may reassure consumers. Once installed, energy suppliers are required under their licence to take all reasonable steps to maintain the smart metering system, including the HAN and WAN. Ofgem is responsible for monitoring and enforcing compliance with these licence conditions."

These committee meetings once published, will be out of date but based on future legislation and standards to become legal requirements.

Only if accepted by Ofgem (and DESNZ), though. Until try've been accepted they're just proposals.

There are more minutes for MP169. Here's a set from June 2024.

https://smartenergycodecompany.co.uk/documents/sec/mp169-working-group-meeting-summary-june-2024/

In those minutes they're not expecting this to be introduced until November 2025 or later.

And in the June 2025 minutes, even that date has disappeared.

https://smartenergycodecompany.co.uk/documents/sec/mp169-working-group-meeting-summary-june-2025/

The latest document seems to be version 0.10 of the mdification report, which suggests a November 2026 implementation date:

https://smartenergycodecompany.co.uk/documents/sec/mp169-modification-report-v0-10/?highlight=mp169

I think we can safely conclude, then, that as things currently stand:

• there's no entitlement to having a smart meter installed in dumb mode
• there never has been such an entitlement, and
• the possibility of such an option has been repeatedly kicked down the road.

Thanks will have a read.  I'm not posting nothing else today.  Just had another warning. On a different thread. Oh well.  See you soon cheers 👍

MeteredOut

If people want their smart meter to not send readings to their supplier, one suggestion I've seen is to take some of the tin-foil from their head and wrap it around the comms unit.

QrizB

MeteredOut said:

If people want their smart meter to not send readings to their supplier, one suggestion I've seen is to take some of the tin-foil from their head and wrap it around the comms unit.

Or there are enterprising businesses selling this sort of thing:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253822318928

I note you can also buy them for WiFi routers, which seems a bit self-defeating but who am I to judge?