Fluttering parking ticket

Redx

Until the government change the system , it will be and is exploited , hence why we tell everyone to complain about the issues to their MP

The new CoP is with the BSI and will receive public consultation very soon , the Mhclg have overall responsibility

Janetx

I would be interested in perhaps trying to do what Redx suggested and claiming for  Obtaining your data without just cause is probably easier , with say £300 to £500 as a claim figure...where would I find the information to do this and has anyone else been successful in claiming for this? 

Janetx

I did complain to the MP who passed it on.I posted the reply on here the other day.......at least I attempted to do so with my broken computer! I also complained to the Welsh Assembly who own the land in SA1...I also posted their reply on here which gave figures of how many appeals were successful...not many from memory I think it was 4! 

Snakes_Belly

Janetx said:

how can they continue to get away with it..........how is it that judges do not  realise that  they have no legal right to claim because they are not the Landowner, and also accept and refer to their alleged agreement as......... a contract..............I was also under the impression that Solicitors are officers of the court and are not supposed to, knowingly, act improperly.... therefore how come these legal firms can continue to act for these  Parking companies................ 

The legals that act for Excel receive a pile of paperwork often at the last minute. In my case the barrister could have really put me on the spot but had not read all the paperwork and was winging it. 

People that are frightened to go to court should not be because if they have put the work in, will be able to stand up to these legals because they have much more knowledge of the case.  

Umkomaas

Janetx said:

I would be interested in perhaps trying to do what Redx suggested and claiming for  Obtaining your data without just cause is probably easier , with say £300 to £500 as a claim figure...where would I find the information to do this and has anyone else been successful in claiming for this? 

Excel should be well aware of the DPA regulations, they've been there before! Here are some threads to read (and draw inspiration from):

https://www.parkingcowboys.co.uk/data-protection-act/

http://nebula.wsimg.com/f7343eab2d0678f6b24bf7a2b97b628f?AccessKeyId=4CB8F2392A09CF228A46&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2017/05/motorist-awarded-900-for-data.html

Redx

Janetx said:

I would be interested in perhaps trying to do what Redx suggested and claiming for  Obtaining your data without just cause is probably easier , with say £300 to £500 as a claim figure...where would I find the information to do this and has anyone else been successful in claiming for this? 

You asked why they can get away with it

The answer I gave is one part of how it could be done , despite the fact that you have already done some of it

You will also find that Mr deep tells everyone this in his stock replies ( D p dance )

He advocates complaining to the SRA regarding their conduct

MCOL has advice on bringing a claim against the parking company and landowner

You asked how and why there need to be changes , I answered the exact query without reading pages and pages of background

People like coupon mad regularly tell winning defendants to bring a claim , as does Umkomaas , D p dance , plus a few other regular contributors here who I cannot recall , so read other threads

There is one person on here that claims to have raised dozens or hundreds of claims and claims a very high success rate , find their posts and read them

Coupon-mad

There are a couple of claims/counterclaims in the offing relating to compensation for distress and abuse of DPA data.  Not concluded yet so may or may not prove useful examples.  There is already Clay v CEL that I've posted about and shown the transcript for before, where Simon Clay got £200 for data abuse alone (no aggravating features, no harassment or discrimination in his case hence £200 was awarded only).

If you decide to claim for compensation for distress, harassment etc then it is a high bar to reach and wouold need careful planning and wording  - not yet though.   There is no rush, stick around and as planned, comment from your heart to the public consultation.

WELL DONE! 

ANOTHER EXCEL ONE BITES THE DUST - AT SWANSEA COURT TOO (usually not a good court)!

Le_Kirk

Well done @Janetx, shame about the costs, shame the judge didn't seem to understand his own rules (CPR rules) BUT a win is a win!

Janetx

I wrote again to my MP...I was am so upset that they keep getting away with robbery......below is his reply...I am concerned that I may have done something wrong in quoting  this forum directly  to the MP ? I do hope it was okay to do this? Dear Geriant Davies, This went to court. My daughter is disabled and was persecuted by this company Excel Parking Ltd for over a year. It caused immense stress to her and her family and exacerbated her condition. Someone needs to do something about these private parking companies and I am asking you to fully investigate the deplorable practices that these companies are getting away with.  This is a massive scam! They are not the Landowners and they do not have any legal right to take people/motorists to the small claims court or to issue these  Parking Charge Notices which are not fines but invoices!    Most Judges are oblivious to the fact that they have no legal right at all to issues claims.  Please read the trust pilots web site  https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.excelparkingservices.co.uk     this highlights  just a small amount of posts by individuals who have been ripped off by Excel Parking and their sister company is Vehicle Control Services LTD. Most people pay up..... anything from £70.00 to £155.00...to £180.00 or more, because they are too afraid of court proceedings and don't know how to defend themselves in court. Some of the claims are years and years old up to six years and in some instances the individual has even sold the vehicle on, some claims are multiple claims which amount to huge sums of money which cause terrible hardship. Some are taken to court or issued with PCN's by these companies and they have residents permits but as so afraid they pay!  Please also  refer to the  Money Supermarkets web site forum and the threads and advice for people to attempt to defend themselveshttps://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6157647/excel-parking-services-have-taken-me-to-the-small-claims-court/p4     Once you investigate, you  will come to realise with horror, the sheer scale of theses operated scam by Private Parking Companies who have no legal right issuing Parking Charge Notices or issuing claims in the Small Claims Courts throughout the country.       Simon Renshaw Smith owns both companies, Excel Parking and Vehicle Services Control. His annual turnover for Excel last year was 15.4 million. 92% of his profit is made from issue of the Parking Charge Notices,  which he pays no VAT on. I look forward to hearing from you Thank you  Geraint Davies Geraint.davies.mp@parliament.ukHide

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Dear Ms ,
 
Thank you for contacting me. I am writing to inform you that I have written to Simon Clarke MP and Simon Renshaw-Smith on your behalf to raise your concerns. 
 
I will write to you again when I have a reply. In the meantime, if there is anything else I can do for you, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Regards,
Geraint Davies MP
Member of Parliament for Swansea West

House of Commons
London, SW1A 0AA

32 Walter Road, 
Swansea,
SA1 5NW

Tel/Ffon: (01792) 475943 

Umkomaas

He'll probably get just one reply. If he does get two, then he'll have two fob-offs!