To all those on this forum that says speed doesn't kill

Guesses

https://news.sky.com/story/dashcam-footage-captures-motorcyclist-catapulted-through-air-after-horror-collision-11905785

According to the report, this guy only survived because he was wearing a suit with airbags.

The dashcam reads 66mph as he enters the bend (so his speedo probably read around 70mph) and it's due to the speed that he veers onto the other side of the road as he takes the bend.

Everyone should slow down (except the millions of drivers that pootle along at 40mph who should, for the love of god, speed up).

Aylesbury_Duck

This will go well.....

prowla

The speed wasn't the issue; the inability to take the bend was.

photome

Speed on its own doesn’t kill

Dr_Crypto

You can drive at 120mph down an empty motorway perfectly safely. On the other hand driving at 20mph outside a school at 3.30pm with the sun in your eyes and double parked cars is very unsafe.

Johno100

photome wrote: »

Speed on its own doesn’t kill

Yes it is hitting things.

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prowla wrote: »

The speed wasn't the issue; the inability to take the bend was.

The inability to take the bend at the speed they were travelling...

AdrianC

SPEED doesn't kill.
INAPPROPRIATE speed kills.

If you're saying that the number on the speedo relative to the number on the stick is the only relevant detail, then you're saying that at 59mph, there'd have been zero issue, but at 61mph, the above was inevitable.

Having said that, you may wish to note that he wasn't charged with exceeding the speed limit. He was charged with one of the Dangerous Driving family of offences. It's perfectly possible to drive dangerously within the speed limit.

FWIW, he doesn't even appear to have understeered, just deliberately run wide on the assumption there was nothing coming.

waamo

Those that say speed doesn't kill would be right. He didn't die.

shaun_from_Africa

AdrianC wrote: »

SPEED doesn't kill.
INAPPROPRIATE speed kills.

Exactly.
100mph on a motorway may be fine (in the right conditions, in the right vehicle and with the right sort of driver experience and training) but 4mph in the wrong location can lead to a fatal accident:
https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/cheery-ilkeston-grandfather-unlawfully-killed-3634652

AdrianC

shaun_from_Africa wrote: »

Exactly.
100mph on a motorway may be fine (in the right conditions, in the right vehicle and with the right sort of driver experience and training) but 4mph in the wrong location can lead to a fatal accident:
https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/cheery-ilkeston-grandfather-unlawfully-killed-3634652

He was hit by an 8mph mobility scooter. 4mph is the limit on pavements. 8mph ones have a "tortoise/hare" 4/8mph switch. Bet it was set to road-mode... SPEED KILLS!