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Koq1985

Hi I need help to defend parking ticket Money Claims Online stage.

From the beginning. I have been picking up customer 7.07.2019 from the Hotel on private land (Hilton on Wembley) where previously there was no signs about maximum stay period. Customer has been late so I was waiting there exactly 33 min where I could only 20 due to their signs.

I get PCN from UK Parking Patrol Office Issued on 12.07.2019. In appeal I kindly inform them about situation and asked them to cancel it as the driver has been working and waiting for the customer from the hotel etc. obviously they refused and asked to pay. I havent said who was the driver at the time.

I said them that in this case I wish to be heard in court and to not try to contact me other way.

On 16.08.2019 another letter to name the driver, or pay. I ignored it.

1.10.2019 Letter Before Claim

18.11.2019 Issue Date letter came from

County Court Business Centre
Money Claims Online
St Katharine’s House
21-27 St Katharine’s Street
NN1 2LH

Amount claimed £103,60
Court Fee £25
Legal r.costs £0
Total £128.60

Is there anyone here who can help me to defend this?
Im new user I cant post links to photos.

Ralph-y

hi, and welcome to the forum ........

there will be plenty for you to read up on ...

go to the newbies thread

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4816822/newbies-private-parking-ticket-old-or-new-read-these-faqs-first-thankyou

you need to read post #2 which is the court guide.


other useful info



HOW TO USE THE FORUM SEARCH FUNCTION:

Use the Forum Jump button (one near the top and one near the bottom of this page) to get back to the forum thread list. Just above the threads, on the right, is a heading along a line, next to forum tools, called 'Search this Forum'. Put your key word(s) in and change the default search from 'Show Threads' to 'Show Posts'.




NEWBIES - HOW TO UPLOAD LINKS TO PHOTOS/SCANS TO MSE

To upload a photo/scan link, you first need to host it on a free photo hosting site (like Dropbox, Imurg or Tinypic), copy the URL, paste it here, but change the http to hxxp and we'll do the conversion. Newbies can't directly upload links to photos/scans until they've a few posts under their belt.

what is the court like ...
Have a look at this short video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n93eoaxhzpU


Oh ... and using a phone to browse the site can cause problems.. so please try a laptop/PC


Ralph:cool:

Koq1985

hxxps://docs.google.com/document/d/10-LznwLm3udVZ7iJigHUfMpgMGamZCMc0HPopRto5Eg

I will read newbies post. Please look into the files from link as I believe its not normal court, its just online claim money something.

Le_Kirk

Here is your link made live, but it contains nothing! "Online claim money something" is MCOL and is real court papers, i.e. a claim form. It needs dealing with, NOT ignored. Did it come from the Northampton CCBC?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10-LznwLm3udVZ7iJigHUfMpgMGamZCMc0HPopRto5Eg

The_Deep

These are not fines and it is a normal court. It is a civil court and they are claiming breach of contract. Please do some research, read the stickies/FAQs, and famliarise yourself with the rules of the game. Ignoring court letters can be very expensive.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams, so consider complaining to your MP after the election, it can cause the scammer extra costs and work.

Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]

Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.[/FONT]

Koq1985

hxxps://xxx.dropbox.com/sh/nbau5ilpddg4s3q/AAC5WicMK21uBrL9quw8AAf4a?dl=0 now i uploaded to dropbox please have a look. Please chamge xxx to tt and www

Yes like I wrote in original message it came from CCBC in Northampton.

KeithP

Koq1985 wrote: »

18.11.2019 Issue Date letter came from County Court Business Centre

With a Claim Issue Date of 18th November, you have until Monday 9th December to do the Acknowledgment of Service. If possible, do not do the AoS before 23rd November, but otherwise there is nothing to be gained by delaying it. To do the AoS, follow the guidance offered in a Dropbox file linked from post #2 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread. About ten minutes work - no thinking required.

Having done the AoS, you have until 4pm on Monday 23rd December 2019 to file your Defence.

That's over four weeks away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute.


When you are happy with the content, your Defence could be filed via email as suggested here:

Print your Defence.
1. Sign it and date it.
   
2. Scan the signed document back in and save it as a pdf.
   
3. Send that pdf as an email attachment to CCBCAQ@Justice.gov.uk
   
4. Just put the claim number and the word Defence in the email title, and in the body of the email something like 'Please find my Defence attached'.
   
5. No need to do anything on MCOL, but do check it after a few days to see if the Claim is marked "defence received". If not, chase the CCBC until it is.
   
6. Do not be surprised to receive an early copy of the Claimant's Directions Questionnaire, they are trying to keep you under pressure. Just file it.
   
7. Wait for your DQ from the CCBC, or download one from the internet, and then re-read post #2 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread to find out exactly what to do with it.

Le_Kirk

Here is your link made live and this one works. That is an official claim form from Northampton CCBC and needs action as per KeithP's post.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nbau5ilpddg4s3q/AAC5WicMK21uBrL9quw8AAf4a?dl=0

Your best bet now is to read the NEWBIE sticky post # 2 and look at the 17 pre-written defences you will find there. Pick the one that most nearly suits your circumstances and adapt it to suit.

You could also try a forum search for situations similar to your by using the advanced search and using taxi pick up drop off or similar as your keyword(s). Change the radio button from threads to posts.

Koq1985

Hi guys. I did AOS, I have logged in there and everything seems to be ok and received. The only problem I have now is to find proper defence as to be honest after long readings I cant find any point I can grab and use to sort out my matter.

They sent all letters on time, I gave them info that I was the driver so keeper defence is not an option, I wrote email to landowner who directed me back to UK PPO so they dont care.

To be honest if there is anyone who can have a look and try to find anything which I can use it would be great.

Only thing I was thinking to use is grace period at the site, It havent been specified in the first letter, but they described it in second one - no grace period aplied for this site.

I cant see any proof that the signs were there at the time of contravention, this is where I would base the defence, is this good idea?

I have read so many defences but I cant find any similar case where I was serving customers on the site, and their actions literally caused the problem ( their delay).

Please help.

Le_Kirk

........ and when you searched the forum you didn't find ANY taxi drivers who have been through the same process?

Koq1985

no I couldnt, taxi drop parking ticket, uk ppo taxi... nothing. There is one case on wembley but it has been about completely different case...