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Martyn1981

EVandPV said:

Martyn1981 said:

New(ish) product that is popping up on all the BEV Youtube news threads. It's similar to roadside pop up chargers, but you bring the 'up' part, and simply plug it into the ground part. [Edit - The lance will have a RRP of £400. M.]

Here's a link to their website, and if you watch the illustration at the top for 30s it shows the unit in operation. Looks like an excellent solution to on road charging, and trials are being run in the UK.

WHAT ARE WE HIDING?
DISCOVER FLAT & FLUSH ON STREET EV CHARGING

News article:

Trojan Energy bags £4m for 'flat and flush' pavement EV charging points

Aberdeen-based Trojan Energy has secured £4.1 million of funding to support an on-street system that is set to make electric vehicle charging more accessible.

The company's 'flat and flush' EV charging points take up less pavement space than the more familiar bulky ones, which means more can be installed.

Trojan says this will make it easier for the estimated 10 million people in the UK who don't have off-street parking to own an EV. Users only need to carry a charging ‘lance’, which plugs in to a socket-like point embedded in the pavement.

Saw this the other day and thought it a great idea but I'm wondering how you stop them getting ICE'd in areas with no traffic wardens ??

Only my thoughts, but I got the feeling that like the lampost charger idea, they'd roll out a number of these along a road, so 'hopefully' one or more are available for PEV's to charge. Sticking with the 'hopeful' guess part, perhaps a reasonable etiquette would start to evolve as the ownership of PEV's rises?

But, I suppose there are other solutions, such as marked bays, and camera enforcement. Perhaps busy areas where people park, but don't live, could be converted piecemeal, let's say there are 10 available pavements, so you convert one part of one pavement, to start with. Obviously, you could do this in housing areas too, but the 'unlucky' households living on that part, of that street, may be a bit pee'd off ....... or encouraged to get a PEV?

Martyn1981

OK, forget all that, the site has information under the 'councils' tab:

01
Charging confidence
With 15 chargepoints per installation, the system is designed to allow some “ICEing” (where internal combustion cars park on a chargepoint bay) and by doing so encourages the uptake of EVs whilst reducing planning tension.

04
Reduce Resident Tension
There's no requirement for marked bays as there's plenty of connectors. We will install 15 at a time so there's less impact on residents. Over time, our system will help encourage EV adoption through community acceptance & benefits.

CKhalvashi

EVandPV said:

Martyn1981 said:

New(ish) product that is popping up on all the BEV Youtube news threads. It's similar to roadside pop up chargers, but you bring the 'up' part, and simply plug it into the ground part. [Edit - The lance will have a RRP of £400. M.]

Here's a link to their website, and if you watch the illustration at the top for 30s it shows the unit in operation. Looks like an excellent solution to on road charging, and trials are being run in the UK.

WHAT ARE WE HIDING?
DISCOVER FLAT & FLUSH ON STREET EV CHARGING

News article:

Trojan Energy bags £4m for 'flat and flush' pavement EV charging points

Aberdeen-based Trojan Energy has secured £4.1 million of funding to support an on-street system that is set to make electric vehicle charging more accessible.

The company's 'flat and flush' EV charging points take up less pavement space than the more familiar bulky ones, which means more can be installed.

Trojan says this will make it easier for the estimated 10 million people in the UK who don't have off-street parking to own an EV. Users only need to carry a charging ‘lance’, which plugs in to a socket-like point embedded in the pavement.

Saw this the other day and thought it a great idea but I'm wondering how you stop them getting ICE'd in areas with no traffic wardens ??

The other issue though is that I want the Yeti parked outside the house for some reasons, and shouldn't be prevented from doing so for a few minutes for reasons such as below:

We don't have garden waste collection, so I fill the old bin, put it in the Yeti and empty it at the tip once every few months. I don't want to be hauling a waste bin around to where we park (we have no street parking due to living on a single track road, just an office car park opposite I will occasionally dump the car outside on an evening/weekend to avoid hauling things over a stone road, it does back onto the garden though which is how we have managed to get an EV charging point installed with the on/off switch at the back door).

Martyn1981

Only a rumour, but the TM2, or whatever it's real name turns out to be, may be getting closer.

Tesla $25K compact electric car prototype has been completed: rumor

It appears that Tesla China is making good progress in its development of the highly-anticipated $25k compact electric car. If recent rumors from China are any indication, it appears that the upcoming affordable EV is still planned for trial production for the end of 2021. 

The update about Tesla China’s newest electric vehicle was shared by noted automotive segment leaker 不是郑小康, who has proven to be accurate in the past. According to the industry leaker, the prototype for Tesla’s $25K car has already been completed, and most suppliers for the vehicle’s production have already been lined up. 

Speaking of rumours, test TMY's may be produced in Austin (Giga Texas) next month, with potential deliveries starting in early Q4. Giga Berlin, despite starting 6 months earlier than Austin, is possibly 'only' one month behind.

michaels

Martyn1981 said:

Only a rumour, but the TM2, or whatever it's real name turns out to be, may be getting closer.

Tesla $25K compact electric car prototype has been completed: rumor

It appears that Tesla China is making good progress in its development of the highly-anticipated $25k compact electric car. If recent rumors from China are any indication, it appears that the upcoming affordable EV is still planned for trial production for the end of 2021. 

The update about Tesla China’s newest electric vehicle was shared by noted automotive segment leaker 不是郑小康, who has proven to be accurate in the past. According to the industry leaker, the prototype for Tesla’s $25K car has already been completed, and most suppliers for the vehicle’s production have already been lined up. 

Speaking of rumours, test TMY's may be produced in Austin (Giga Texas) next month, with potential deliveries starting in early Q4. Giga Berlin, despite starting 6 months earlier than Austin, is possibly 'only' one month behind.

Are they starting with 'original' TM Ys with the 2170 cells until 4680s for the integral packs become available?

Grumpy_chap

Martyn1981 said:

Only a rumour, but the TM2, or whatever it's real name turns out to be, may be getting closer

I wonder how range for the TM2 will compare with TM3 LR?

Martyn1981

Couple of good articles this morning from CT.

First a really interesting idea/angle on electrifying big rigs in Australia - convert them to BEV's when it's time for their major overhaul, and use battery swapping stations along the main highways, where/when the drivers need to take mandatory breaks anyway.

It sounds good, and I hope it's economically viable, as converting existing diesels will help to transition fleets to electric faster.

Truckies Going Electric In Australia

A diesel engine on average needs to be reconditioned every 10 years or 1.3 million kilometers. Instead of rebuilding an old diesel, Janus argues that it is cost-effective to replace it with an electric motor. Especially if you factor in the fuel savings (estimated at 50%) and the resale value of the used motor. And it can be done in a week. 

Janus has thought through the issues in the trucking industry — time is money. You don’t have to wait for the truck to be charged, with swapping stations placed near trucking rest stops and timed to the drivers’ mandatory fatigue breaks, a battery can be swapped out conveniently. It takes 20 minutes to fuel up a big diesel. But it only takes 3 minutes to swap out the battery. 

For example: a forklift slots the giant lithium battery into its slot under the hood of a Kenworth T403, then puts the battery on to charge at the most economical charging rate. Tap it into the grid. Three more class 8 prototype trucks, including a new Kenworth T610, are being prepared and will be tested on the busy route from Brisbane to Sydney during the rest of 2021. That’s 1000 km.

and good news, sort of, regarding Toyota's attempts to slow down the electrification of cars - it's not going unmissed, it's all over the news, including all the BEV news channels on Youtube, so I genuinely think that their disgusting attempts will fail, as they have been 'revealed' worldwide now. Have to admit the news about India scared me - I've explained for nearly a decade that probably the biggest win from the FiT schemes launched across so many countries in the late 2,000's and early 2,010's, was that it made PV affordable for 'poorer' countries, just as they were expanding FF generation. Well, anything that delays electrification in India, where large / 4 wheel vehicles are still in the minority but ready to pop, would be an absolute disaster.

I know I'm ever the optimist, but the opposition to, publication of, and criticism to Toyota's policies, suggests to me that they'll struggle to slow down electrification now, and even if policies aren't friendly enough to BEV's, the 800lb economics gorilla is starting to eye up Toyota now!

What Went Wrong At Toyota? Hybrid Electrification Pioneer Is Now Working To Delay Electrification

Considering Toyota’s history, and its undisputed technological mastery, it’s very puzzling that the automaker has become the industry’s strongest voice opposing the transition to electric vehicles. In January, CEO Akio Toyoda made the company’s position clear with an anti-EV tirade in which he denounced the Japanese government’s recent proposal to phase out fossil-fuel vehicles.

Toyota’s lobbying effort in Washington is part of a worldwide strategy of opposing stricter emissions standards and EV mandates. Executives at Toyota’s Indian subsidiary publicly criticized India’s target for 100 percent EVs by 2030. The company sued the Mexican government over fuel efficiency rules. In Japan, Toyota officials argued against carbon taxes.

Many auto industry experts are puzzled and dismayed by Toyota’s anti-EV lobbying push in Washington, which is a fairly recent development. “They really were on the right path, especially with the introduction of the Prius, and they still talk about climate change,” former EPA exec Margo Oge told the Times. “But they’re fighting policies for electric vehicles across the globe, and that’s hurting the effort of policymakers in setting any ambitious measures.”

Martyn1981

Pushback against Allegra Stratton's negative comments about BEV's, continues:

Experts defend electric cars after Allegra Stratton comments

Electric car experts have rallied to the defence of the vehicles after suggestions from a government spokesperson that they were unsuitable for long journeys.

Electric cars have an average range of about 200 miles, suitable for the vast majority of journeys taken on British roads, while top-range models have a more extensive range of about 250 miles.

An increasing number of chargers on British roads can also charge a car battery from about 20% full to 80% within half an hour, meaning even long journeys can be accommodated without much disruption, car experts told the Guardian.

Edmund King, president of the AA, said drivers ought to take a break after 200 miles driving, in any case. “Drivers covering long distances should take regular breaks to maintain safety, so this is the ideal time to charge the car. Range anxiety will continue to decrease with more chargers and improved range on new models.”

‘What’s the fuss? No fuss!’: readers on their electric vehicles

The government’s climate spokesperson, Allegra Stratton, has said that a diesel car suits her better than an electric, citing the time it takes to stop and recharge on a long journey.
Five Guardian readers talked about why they now prefer driving electric vehicles (EVs):

JKenH

Charging queues in Norway on last day of vacation

  …but not for Tesla owners

Bjorn Nyland who as many of you will know is an EV YouTuber went round filming queues at charging stations in Norway. At one station 9 cars were queuing for 4 stalls but no queues at the Tesla superchargers. 

https://youtu.be/EKlDjb6F4Cw

EVandPV

EDF launches V2G service for Nissan fleet customers in the UK

EDF is launching a new commercial charging service in the UK using vehicle-to-grid technology established through its joint venture, Dreev with Nuvve, in 2019. Nissan is on board and will offer the new V2G service exclusively to fleet customers of the Leaf and e-NV200 models.

The company also expects to install 1,500 “smart electric chargers” in the United Kingdom through the joint venture with EDF. As usual, the V2G chargers store energy at less busy times to make it available for sale on the energy markets or for supporting grid flexibility at times of peak energy use.

https://www.electrive.com/2021/08/02/edf-launches-v2g-service-for-nissan-fleet-customers/