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EVandPV

A win for the wee Zoe .....

Affordable Electric Car of the Year 2021: Renault Zoe

In the closely fought Affordable Electric Car class, the Zoe still edges ahead of its rivals. It’s a smartly styled, practical and cost-effective all-electric supermini to buy and run, so the Renault takes the honours in this category for the second year in a row.

https://www-autoexpress-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.autoexpress.co.uk/renault/zoe/355450/affordable-electric-car-year-2021-renault-zoe?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM=#aoh=16256524037178&csi=0&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/renault/zoe/355450/affordable-electric-car-year-2021-renault-zoe

EVandPV

And at the premium end ......

Premium Electric Car of the Year 2021: Hyundai Ioniq 5

The Hyundai Ioniq 5 is the 2021 Auto Express Premium Electric Car of the Year, with the Audi Q4 e-tron and Tesla Model 3 commended

https://www-autoexpress-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.autoexpress.co.uk/hyundai/ioniq-5/355451/premium-electric-car-year-2021-hyundai-ioniq-5?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM=#aoh=16256730373574&csi=0&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/hyundai/ioniq-5/355451/premium-electric-car-year-2021-hyundai-ioniq-5

CKhalvashi

Are the Tesla numbers due to a bulk of cars coming in a certain month (I notice Tesla have done this in the past) or for another reason?

In other news, does anyone have experience here with the EQA? It, the Mustang and Enyaq are on the list for potential replacement of the Yeti. Requirements are an estate-ish car with 250-ish mile rated range with delivery November/December-ish (I'd like to give it a run to Paris in December on a contract, subject to COVID restrictions etc).

We need to work out how to get a 2nd charging point into the house before proceeding further, so nothing is urgent. Another option is charging one at work, as OH doesn't have access to workplace charging.

Solarchaser

Tesla filled boats arrived in May and June, so yeah the surge was for that reason, next one due in August

Martyn1981

Nothing new, so to speak, about the argument here that BEV's are 'better' than ICEV's, but the article suggests reading the scientific article on which it is reporting, and tbf, it's short and simple and an interesting read.

All The Arguments Battery-Electric Vehicle Bashers Make About BEVs Polluting More Are Wrong

Every now and then, we see comments that battery-electric vehicles (BEV) are not as good for the climate as advertised. These are often based on pseudo-scientific articles by serious-sounding institutions. For normal people like you and me, it is hard to debunk those stories. The power of good FUD is that it sounds true.

Luckily, we have a tireless scientist helping us debunk those stories. Now he has collected the most often used false arguments in an article we can reference for the right arguments.

Coastalwatch

Hadn't seen this posted previously so apologies if it has!

Co Charger is an App which has already been developed to connect people with BEV chargers willing to be used by others nearby who do not have off street parking and therefore no means of charging other than at work or on public chargers and probably not within walking distance of their home. There is no charge for the App, either for the host or chargee. Co Chargers return is via a 10% +vat levi on each transaction.

It is promoted as a Green and Ethical means of assisting the roll out of BEV's into the wider population to include those who might be put off otherwise due to not having the facility at home.

The Host can set their own fees per hour and the monetary side is handled by Co Charger who take their share and deposit the remainder in the Hosts account.

Probably not for everyone, but for those of us willing to assist others not so fortunate as ourselves on the transistion towards a cleaner environment then it's certainly worth investigating.

I came across them on the Ethex platform as they are seeking to raise funds to enhance their product further and are offering equity in exchange.

https://co-charger.com/download/

EVandPV

Coastalwatch said:

Hadn't seen this posted previously so apologies if it has!

Co Charger is an App which has already been developed to connect people with BEV chargers willing to be used by others nearby who do not have off street parking and therefore no means of charging other than at work or on public chargers and probably not within walking distance of their home. There is no charge for the App, either for the host or chargee. Co Chargers return is via a 10% +vat levi on each transaction.

It is promoted as a Green and Ethical means of assisting the roll out of BEV's into the wider population to include those who might be put off otherwise due to not having the facility at home.

The Host can set their own fees per hour and the monetary side is handled by Co Charger who take their share and deposit the remainder in the Hosts account.

Probably not for everyone, but for those of us willing to assist others not so fortunate as ourselves on the transistion towards a cleaner environment then it's certainly worth investigating.

I came across them on the Ethex platform as they are seeking to raise funds to enhance their product further and are offering equity in exchange.

https://co-charger.com/download/

Great idea but there's some (ahem) interesting session rates.
Some charging £5 an hour and others with a minimum session fee of £5-6   

Seriously !!??
Wondering if there are potentially some scam hosts among them ??

michaels

CKhalvashi said:

Are the Tesla numbers due to a bulk of cars coming in a certain month (I notice Tesla have done this in the past) or for another reason?

In other news, does anyone have experience here with the EQA? It, the Mustang and Enyaq are on the list for potential replacement of the Yeti. Requirements are an estate-ish car with 250-ish mile rated range with delivery November/December-ish (I'd like to give it a run to Paris in December on a contract, subject to COVID restrictions etc).

We need to work out how to get a 2nd charging point into the house before proceeding further, so nothing is urgent. Another option is charging one at work, as OH doesn't have access to workplace charging.

For accounting reasons tesla want to minimise their stock of built but not delivered cars at the end of each quarter.  Basically in month 1 of each quarter they manufacture for export by boat to Europe in California and China and don't see cars anywhere.  In month 2 they manufacture for local demand and start selling in the US and China whilst the boats are sailing to Europe. Month 3 they manufacture and sell locally trying to maximise deliveries at the end of the quarter whilst also delivering and booking the the European sales.  Hence only selling in Europe the last month of each quarter.

I think the EQA is half a class smaller than the ID4/Mustang/Enyaq/Model Y/Ioniq 5/Kia EV6 but potentially more upmarket.  Perhaps it compares in size to the MG ZS, Peugeot e2008, Hyundai Kona, Kia eNiro?

Coastalwatch

EVandPV said:

Coastalwatch said:

Hadn't seen this posted previously so apologies if it has!

Co Charger is an App which has already been developed to connect people with BEV chargers willing to be used by others nearby who do not have off street parking and therefore no means of charging other than at work or on public chargers and probably not within walking distance of their home. There is no charge for the App, either for the host or chargee. Co Chargers return is via a 10% +vat levi on each transaction.

https://co-charger.com/download/

Great idea but there's some (ahem) interesting session rates.
Some charging £5 an hour and others with a minimum session fee of £5-6   

Seriously !!??
Wondering if there are potentially some scam hosts among them ??

Thanks for interrogating prices EV, I have to confess that I'd gone no further than reading Co Charger's explanation of how it all works along with "suggested" fees to cover leccy costs/wear & tear of charger and the transaction fee.

As for scam Hosts then as the intention is simply to act as a conduit between those living near to one another then I doubt it would take much effort to check out a potential host before making a booking. I also suspect a potential scammer would think of far more lucrative ways of attracting the odd fiver here or there not to mention giving away their identity by adding their bank account and personal details when signing up!

Obviously I've led a very sheltered life compared to some.

Anyway, I've signed up and set my rate at £1.75/hour with a minimum of the same.

With a 7.4kWh charger it works out around 24p/kWh. So anywhere between 5p & 8p/mile.

I believe public chargers can be anywhere between 30p and 70p/kWh. Pod Point 7kW chargers are the cheapest I've come across and the one we used was 18p/kWh. But then it was accompanied by an unwelcome car parking fee of £5 for the four hours.

I did say at the start that it wouldn't be for everyone, either as a host or Chargee, but I believe it's a very credit worthy scheme and worth supporting if it encourages just one person locally to me to purchase an EV when otherwise they might not.

As you can see, I'm a right Rip off merchant.

JKenH

Important to notify your household insurers if you are going to be hiring out your charger as there could be implications should something go wrong.