Money Questions - If Someone Goes to Prison

Jamie27

Janepig wrote: »

How did it go with the Probation Officer Jamie? Were they able to tell you what they're going to recommend in their report, or is it a case that the judge has said you're definitely going to prison and it's just a matter of how long for? You may be lucky in that prison overcrowding means even the most unlikely people are getting suspended sentences at the moment.

Jxx

Went OK I think - my solicitor had told me what I needed to say especially about the family and the job and I did that. Judge had said that it would be a custodial so think it's only a matter of how long but you never know - as you say I keep hearing the stuff about prisons being overcrowded too.

Jamie27

fsdss wrote: »

sometimes people have difficulties in life which needs addressing. unfortunately you have found this out by your actions for which you have caused distress to other people including that of your family and victim(s) of your crimes.

you dont ( i think) have enough time to try and save money to pay your mortgage for 3 years in the worst scenario.

i'm sure that i dont need to tell you that you need to seriously think about the plans for your future and what you want out of life, if continuing leading a life of crime is appealing to you then i have no sympathy.

i don't believe that this is the life you wish to lead, as your posts comes across caring and mature, what your problem is- can probably be helped by either psychology input, medicine or self remedied. you need to make it abundantly clear to the court that you wish to help yourself and others in "redeeming" yourself. you have a skill as an electrician that you can use in charity work (or community service) for which you need to offer, and a good solicitor can put this across to the court well
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i want to say good luck, but i have reservations about this, as i would also want to see some justice done.

Have sorted things out with the house - am renting it out from after Christmas and that way I'll be able to keep it. Doing it for a year and will see after that. Made arrangements for my gf so we have to be out a few days after Christmas but it seemed the best plan.

Getting into this situation has made me wake up and think about what's important and I have promised everybody that things will change once all this is behind me.

Jamie27

Happychappy wrote: »

Dont owe anything, why should we ? If the father decides to act in the way he has, it's his decision as are the consequences for his family, why should society be expected to pick up the tab ?

I don't agree with that - chances are that I'll be sent to prison - not my choice but can't do anything about it. This means that my family will suffer as I can't look after them. I've paid my taxes and served in the army so it's not like I've been sitting on my !!! for years. I wish I could change the past for everybody's sake but I can't. I want my family to get on as well as they can and taht's why I posted on here first off for advice

Savvy_Sue

There's no getting around the fact that your actions HAVE had consequences for your family and WILL continue to do so. It is impossible for them NOT to suffer if you are imprisoned. Actions are usually the result of decisions - even if they're instinctive, from other things you've said your instincts may need a bit of fine tuning for civilian life ... In that sense, people see it as your CHOICES which are affecting the family.

But you are at least looking ahead, being realistic, and doing what you can to minimise the consequences. Which, at this stage, is about all you can do, because even if you were in a position to make amends to the person you injured this isn't the time to approach them.

I really hope you can make a go of things when you come out: that's when NACRO should really come into their own.

Older_but_not_wiser_2

Jamie27 wrote: »

Judge had said that it would be a custodial so think it's only a matter of how long but you never know - as you say I keep hearing the stuff about prisons being overcrowded too.

The prisons are never overcrowded enough for someone who is going to recieve a custodial sentence - I should know, I work in one.

I've followed this thread, and commend you on the thought and effort you've put in after the fact.

I hope things go well for you and you learn from the experience.

My one piece of advice to you would be - not to get involved in jail politics if you get a custodial sentence, and just keep your head down and do your time. If you do that, you have more chance of getting out early on the tagging system, although the crime you're charged with might preclude you from the tagging system - ask as soon as you get inside.

Sassers

Js_Other_Half wrote: »

I know you've probably thought of it, but have you been in touch with any ex-service charities? The best known one is probably http://www.ssafa.org.uk/ quote]

Hi Jamie - I would also recommend SSAFA as you are ex-forces. They are brilliant. Just a quick story......... my nephew went missing and tried to do himself in. He was ex-forces and in a right old state. He was diagnosed with post tramatic stress syndrome among other things.
Thanks to SSAFA, they not only gave him counselling, emotionally sorted amd medicated, they got him a roof over his head, paid the council tax, paid off his debts and fitted the house out with curtains, carpets and white goods.

I'd recommend them to anyone such as yourself and please keep trying to get through to them as they will be really busy.......

All the very best - perhaps your brief could use the fact that your girlfriend is pregnant to mitigate with the judge/jury.......?I'd prefer to do community orders/service than go inside myself!!!

Good luck - and don't take no notice of the `holier than thou' brigade on here.
Let us know how you do
Sassers x

Jamie27

Older_but_not_wiser wrote: »

The prisons are never overcrowded enough for someone who is going to recieve a custodial sentence - I should know, I work in one.

I've followed this thread, and commend you on the thought and effort you've put in after the fact.

I hope things go well for you and you learn from the experience.

My one piece of advice to you would be - not to get involved in jail politics if you get a custodial sentence, and just keep your head down and do your time. If you do that, you have more chance of getting out early on the tagging system, although the crime you're charged with might preclude you from the tagging system - ask as soon as you get inside.

Less than 2 weeks to go now until I find out exactly what's going to happen. I just want to get it over with now and keep out of trouble inside and outside. My brief said the same thing about probably not getting tag due to it being GBH but said there's always a chance. Do you know if the GBH charge will also be a problem in trying to get into a lower Cat prison?

Jamie27

Sassers wrote: »

Js_Other_Half wrote: »

I know you've probably thought of it, but have you been in touch with any ex-service charities? The best known one is probably http://www.ssafa.org.uk/ quote]

Hi Jamie - I would also recommend SSAFA as you are ex-forces. They are brilliant. Just a quick story......... my nephew went missing and tried to do himself in. He was ex-forces and in a right old state. He was diagnosed with post tramatic stress syndrome among other things.
Thanks to SSAFA, they not only gave him counselling, emotionally sorted amd medicated, they got him a roof over his head, paid the council tax, paid off his debts and fitted the house out with curtains, carpets and white goods.

I'd recommend them to anyone such as yourself and please keep trying to get through to them as they will be really busy.......

All the very best - perhaps your brief could use the fact that your girlfriend is pregnant to mitigate with the judge/jury.......?I'd prefer to do community orders/service than go inside myself!!!

Good luck - and don't take no notice of the `holier than thou' brigade on here.
Let us know how you do
Sassers x

I have been in touch with SSAFA and they were very good. My gf is going to stay in touch with them and they have offered her some help so that was really useful.

loobylou2

Jamie,

I just want to say that I know you did something wrong and I in no way condone that, I feel for your victim but, I think what you are doing in trying to face up to the consequences of your actions and looking out for your loved ones is admirable. I wish you and your family a happier life in the future and hope that you are able to put the past behind you and build a successful life for yourself.

QueenFeeBee

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