A Question for Tory Supporters

phillw

SpiderLegs wrote: »

Don’t be so defeatist Phil. Unlike you I am very confident that Jezza is going to be our next PM.

I'd take anyone other than Boris, but why do you think Jeremy is going to win?

Davy_Jones_II

Arklight wrote: »

Firstly, you are highlighting the problem not the solution. Your rant is an illustration of an unbalanced economy hardwired by inequality, and the lazy entitlement of the (relative) few who see ordinary people as scroungers.

You are (willfully) ignoring the problem of tax evasion in both corporate and private incomes, that costs the UK billions each year. Roughly half of all the land in the UK is owned by less than 1% of the population while home ownership becomes a pipe dream for millions. You are ignoring this because you believe it benefits you, and hang everyone else.

I wish you well in your emigration and would urge you to make sure whichever door you exit from does not interfere with your derrière.

Not a rant, just me pointing out that you’re going to have to pick up a larger share of the bill now. I’m not l leaving the country, by the way, I’m just moving my tax residence which means shifting the total number of nights I’m here by a couple of weeks a year.

Everyone, you included, gets a decent state education, access to the rule of law, and the country’s infrastructure, and everyone gets to use the generous safety net if they try and fail.

Unless you have health issues or a disability, you have to try very hard to end up in poverty in the UK. It doesn’t just happen to people, it’s the inevitable outcome of choices made.

Davy_Jones_II

phillw wrote: »

I'd take anyone other than Boris, but why do you think Jeremy is going to win?

No-one actually believes that, as the betting market shows.

Arklight

Davy_Jones_II wrote: »

Not a rant, just me pointing out that you’re going to have to pick up a larger share of the bill now. I’m not l leaving the country, by the way, I’m just moving my tax residence which means shifting the total number of nights I’m here by a couple of weeks a year.

Everyone, you included, gets a decent state education, access to the rule of law, and the country’s infrastructure, and everyone gets to use the generous safety net if they try and fail.

Unless you have health issues or a disability, you have to try very hard to end up in poverty in the UK. It doesn’t just happen to people, it’s the inevitable outcome of choices made.

The contempt and dishonesty of the Tory. Happy to earn money in the UK. Happy to take advantage of the public services.

Pay their share of tax? Oh no.

SpiderLegs

phillw wrote: »

I'd take anyone other than Boris, but why do you think Jeremy is going to win?

I didn’t say he was going to win. I said he’d be our next prime minister.

Davy_Jones_II

Arklight wrote: »

The contempt and dishonesty of the Tory. Happy to earn money in the UK. Happy to take advantage of the public services.

Pay their share of tax? Oh no.

I’m not paid in the UK.

You do struggle with this, don’t you? Tell me, why, if my wage is paid in mainland Europe and I spend most of the year outside the country would I choose to pay my income tax here?

But yes, I do feel contempt for you, I just can’t understand why you think that I should subsidise you. What do you do for me to expect that you have a call on the fruits of my labour?

Davy_Jones_II

SpiderLegs wrote: »

I didn’t say he was going to win. I said he’d be our next prime minister.

Why do you think that?

Herzlos

leviathan wrote: »

I'm all for helping one of those groups but I'm also fully aware of the first groups existance - it's hard to miss them in my area. So dont you dare pretend that they dont exist and it's a all a right wing fabrication. For those of us unlike you that choose to open our blinkers they are plain to see. TV programmes have even and often glorified them !!

That was all pretty valid, I entirely agree. Note I said the trope was that all people on benefits were stealing from the hard workers or are poor because of poor prioritization. Undoubtedly some are (we all know a few) but they are by far the exception rather than the rule. Still a tiny percentage of tax money lost there compared to tax evasion though, and I'm happy to pay for a few chancers if it means those that need it, get it.

Arklight

kangoora wrote: »

Child - posting a 20 year old photo of Jimmy Saville wearing a 'vote conservative' t-shirt.

What next - how about a witty photo of Neville Chamberlain to prove Tories shouldn't be trusted with european negotiations?

I thought people above the age of 15 had got over these meaningless memes, obviously not in your case. BTW I apologise if you are 12 years old, you will grow out of it eventually.

Here's another one:

undetterred

Arklight wrote: »

Here's another one:

Yawn.............